A Few New Laws To Note

Apparently it is now a felony in Norf Cackalacki if you steal over $1000 in cooking grease. I find this odd because stealing over $500 in anything is a felony in the state of Misery, but I'm not as familiar with state laws outside of my little shell.

The Article said: Another law that takes affect today cracks down on grease theft at restaurants. Although local businesses that were contacted said they had not heard of it happening here, there reportedly have been problems in some parts of the state with people pilfering used cooking oil from restaurants. The new law makes it a misdemeanor to steal used cooking oil if the total value is $1,000 or less. The offense is a felony if the value of the stolen grease or the grease plus its container exceeds $1,000. An employee in the District Attorney’s Office said the office has no record of anyone being prosecuted in this district for cooking oil theft.

Illinois will be getting some new laws too.

The Article said: Another unusual law taking effect at midnight is Public Act 97-743 in Illinois. This law imposes a fine of $1,000 on anyone who pops a wheelie on a motorcycle while speeding. While this law might upset some motorcyclists, the state is now giving them a free pass to go through red lights. Motorcycles are often not heavy enough to trigger magnetic sensors at traffic lights to inform them a vehicle has pulled up. Motorcyclists usually have to wait for a car to pull up before the light turns green. The new bill states that after a “reasonable” amount of time, the motorcycle could pass the red light if the coast is clear. The law doesn’t apply to cities where the population exceeds 2 million people.

As will Florida, you hooning heathens.

Same Article As Above said: As of Jan. 1, it will no longer be illegal to flash your headlights in Florida to warn drivers about a speeding trap set by police.

Flash-to-warn is illegal in Delaware, too. If a cop sees you doing it, they can - and sometimes will - turn around and ticket you.

Duke wrote: Flash-to-warn is illegal in Delaware, too. If a cop sees you doing it, they can - and sometimes will - turn around and ticket you.

Lighting violation in Missouri. You can be ticketed for having your brights on when other vehicles are within range. Has nothing to do with warning of a cop shooting radar. The only time its not illegal (that I can think of) is when passing.

I'd flash my headlights anyway, screw them! If the KKK can hold rallies and it's protected by the 1st amendment, then I can warn my fellow motorists. That's why I say cops are just tax collectors.

DrBoost wrote: I'd flash my headlights anyway, screw them! If the KKK can hold rallies and it's protected by the 1st amendment, then I can warn my fellow motorists. That's why I say cops are just tax collectors.

The kkk took my baby away. So, you know, screw them.

Joey

In reply to DrBoost:

From my understanding, flashing your lights wasn't illegal in Florida before. The popo were writing tickets under the state law that said you can't have emergency vehicle lights on your car. The cases were getting thrown out if the ticketee bothered to protest it.

I asked a NCHP once whether a radar site was used as a speeding deterrent, or was it for revenue generation ... he hesitated for a moment then said ... "both" and grinned

Dr. Hess wrote: From my understanding, flashing your lights wasn't illegal in Florida before. The popo were writing tickets under the state law that said you can't have emergency vehicle lights on your car. The cases were getting thrown out if the ticketee bothered to protest it.

I had some threaten me with tickets, but in Missouri, an emergency vehicle has a flashing light or lights visible in all directions and a siren. Very specific, very hard to get around.

Way back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, I read in either C/D or R&T that a judge in New Hampshire had tossed out light-flashing charges on the grounds that it was "a historic right of the American people to warn their fellow citizens about the presence of armed might." I've thought about that reasoning for a long time, and I still can't think of a good argument against it. (I can think of a lot of knee-jerk arguments against it, but no good ones.)

In reply to Stealthtercel:

If I'm the cop and the judge says its a persons right, I no longer write tickets for it. Actually, I would prefer to have the reds flashing for my safety while I'm shooting radar or lidar. If you can't see me in time to slow down, you're a berkeleying moron.

N Sperlo wrote: As will Florida, you hooning heathens.

Same Article As Above said: As of Jan. 1, it will no longer be illegal to flash your headlights in Florida to warn drivers about a speeding trap set by police.

I would like to see this go up through the courts. Its easily a first amendment case.

N Sperlo wrote: Illinois will be getting some new laws too.

The Article said: ... This law imposes a fine of $1,000 on anyone who pops a wheelie on a motorcycle while speeding...

So popping a wheelie at or below the speed limit is OK?

Not illegal means Is Legal, right?

Can't do wheelies on a motorcycle in Illinois anymore.

neon4891 wrote:

N Sperlo wrote: Illinois will be getting some new laws too.

The Article said: ... This law imposes a fine of $1,000 on anyone who pops a wheelie on a motorcycle while speeding...

So popping a wheelie at or below the speed limit is OK?

Yea. The article wasn't too clear on that. Had me scratching my head too. The cool thing is that you can now treat red traffic signals practically as stop signs while you bike. A stop to look both ways seems reasonable to me.

914Driver wrote: Can't do wheelies on a motorcycle in Illinois anymore.

But stoppies are still ok?

N Sperlo wrote: The cool thing is that you can now treat red traffic signals practically as stop signs while you bike. A stop to look both ways seems reasonable to me.

My understanding of that rule is applies only if you've been sitting there for a long period of time and the light just isn't going to change.

Most times I've found that getting the light to change is mainly a matter of positioning your bike correctly over the loop in the pavement.

Grtechguy wrote: But stoppies are still ok?

As long as you aren't speeding when you do it!

neon4891 wrote: So popping a wheelie at or below the speed limit is OK?

Probably subject to an existing law for something like "exhibition of speed" or "reckless driving" that may have a lesser fine. So not legal, just illegal under a different section of the law.

stuart in mn wrote:

N Sperlo wrote: The cool thing is that you can now treat red traffic signals practically as stop signs while you bike. A stop to look both ways seems reasonable to me.

My understanding of that rule is applies only if you've been sitting there for a long period of time and the light just isn't going to change. Most times I've found that getting the light to change is mainly a matter of positioning your bike correctly over the loop in the pavement.

All the law states is "a reasonable amount of time," which leaves it up for interpretation. I'm sure there will be an "understanding" in the very near future.

joey48442 wrote:

DrBoost wrote: I'd flash my headlights anyway, screw them! If the KKK can hold rallies and it's protected by the 1st amendment, then I can warn my fellow motorists. That's why I say cops are just tax collectors.

The kkk took my baby away. So, you know, screw them. Joey

That works even better since your name is actually Joey.

being on one wheel on a motorcycle was already illegal in IL - it will get you a reckless driving ticket. Now it's a specific fine.

stuart in mn wrote:

N Sperlo wrote: The cool thing is that you can now treat red traffic signals practically as stop signs while you bike. A stop to look both ways seems reasonable to me.

My understanding of that rule is applies only if you've been sitting there for a long period of time and the light just isn't going to change. Most times I've found that getting the light to change is mainly a matter of positioning your bike correctly over the loop in the pavement.

Dropping the kickstand down and touching the sensor worked most times for me. But if no one was coming, I went anyway.