ckosacranoid
ckosacranoid HalfDork
2/22/09 2:50 p.m.

i do not the story about it, but my grandmother told me about someone who was forced to put thier plane down a few miles short of the airport and i went out the next day and took a couple of pics of the plane where it landed on grayslake on the ice this past week. the town was grayslake,ill.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/22/09 2:54 p.m.

at least the ice was thick enough... around here they go splash

mtn
mtn Dork
2/22/09 3:22 p.m.

Is that Third Lake or Grays Lake? I think I see my friends house

EDIT: Just re-read the original post... Grays lake

Appleseed
Appleseed Reader
2/23/09 1:57 a.m.

Wonder if they were trying for Campbell?

Grtechguy
Grtechguy SuperDork
2/23/09 6:44 a.m.

I could think of worse places to land...

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/23/09 8:23 a.m.

I see a nice opportunity to quote the Titanic’s captain…”don’t worry folks, we’re just stopping for ice.”

Grtechguy
Grtechguy SuperDork
2/23/09 8:34 a.m.

What was the Burt Reynalds movie where they land the plane in town?

ClemSparks
ClemSparks SuperDork
2/23/09 8:42 a.m.

That's pretty cool.

However, if I had any interest in that plane (financial interest...) I'd be pulling that sucker off the ice ASAP!

The ice is apparently thick enough to hold up an airplane, it's thick enough for me to walk out there (holding a long board, to keep from breaking all the way through) with a rope and tie it off to thenosegear or whatever, so I could start to winch it in...

Clem

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/23/09 9:02 a.m.

I learned to fly way back in the early eights and if memory serves, I was told that under the best of circumstances, it costs around $6,000 to remove the wings, transport the aircraft to an airfield, reattach the wings, & have an A&P inspect and sign off on the airworthiness certificate.

What the pilot / owner needs to do (assuming the aircraft just ran out of gas or had some other easily resolvable issue like that) is to determine if a safe take off from the lake can be made & seek FAA approval for a waiver to do so.

Federal aviation regulations state that “aircraft must be operated at least 500 horizontal feet from persons, structures, or livestock except for purposes of taking off or landing” so there’s some provision for saying “hey, I’m taking off so I’m legit”.

Tommy Suddard
Tommy Suddard GRM+ Memberand SonDork
2/23/09 4:43 p.m.

Plane drifting?

96DXCivic
96DXCivic Reader
2/23/09 4:51 p.m.
Grtechguy wrote: What was the Burt Reynalds movie where they land the plane in town?

Cannonball Run

procker
procker New Reader
2/23/09 6:32 p.m.
96DXCivic wrote:
Grtechguy wrote: What was the Burt Reynalds movie where they land the plane in town?
Cannonball Run

And it was for good reason too...6 or 12 pack of beer no?....good enough reason for me lol

ckosacranoid
ckosacranoid HalfDork
2/25/09 9:05 p.m.

the faa would not let the guy take off from the ice cause they houses where to close, they took the wings off and towed it. and yes it was aiming for camblee over in hainsville.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand New Reader
2/25/09 9:14 p.m.

A friend of mines dad blew the engine on his Mooney and landed in a tobacco field. Rebuilt the engine in the farmers barn. Paid two guys to pull the mail boxes down on the road in front of the farmers house and took off there. Of course that was before the faa stuck their nose in everyone's business.

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
2/25/09 10:07 p.m.

Taking off from a lake shouldn't be that big of a deal. With any airspeed, you're not using the wheels to steer.

The only practical issue I can see is, what do you do if you need to abort the takeoff? You'd need a lot more space to come to a stop than normal. The last thing you want is to decide you don't have the airspeed to climb, and realize that you don't have enough runway to stop.

But, yeah, the FAA are shiny happy people and they'd pull your license immediately.

Appleseed
Appleseed Reader
2/25/09 10:15 p.m.

If you have to abort for any reason you'd be right berklyed. That wet ice is like Teflon. The pilot should just be glad his Cessna isn't a home for carp.

mtn
mtn Dork
2/25/09 10:25 p.m.
ckosacranoid wrote: the faa would not let the guy take off from the ice cause they houses where to close, they took the wings off and towed it. and yes it was aiming for camblee over in hainsville.

I once had a girlfriend who lived about 1000 yards from that airport. She got two tickets with me in the car in the 2 months that I dated her from those lousy hainsville cops.

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
2/25/09 10:26 p.m.
Appleseed wrote: If you have to abort for any reason you'd be right berklyed. That wet ice is like Teflon. The pilot should just be glad his Cessna isn't a home for carp.

Well, he landed it there, so he managed to decelerate from about 60mph. But he had the full length of the lake to do that. You'd have to make the go/abort decision really early. I figure maybe 1/3 the length of the lake.

Plus, you wouldn't have traction to do a proper run-up to check systems.

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