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1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltimaDork
5/30/17 12:28 p.m.
racerdave600 wrote: And to comment on what Huckleberry brought up, I am sooooo sick of everyone being mock offended. I would have no issue at all with what vwcorvette brought up whether I agreed with it or not. When did we get so offended that we cannot even have disagreements and discuss the issue? This is what I consider to the biggest problem, not someone that disagrees with my position. Everything today is stated as absolute fact with no room for discussions or disagreement, but that's the very thing that has formed our country throughout it's history.

Well said. I agree.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
5/30/17 2:04 p.m.

As Lemmy once said, "Some people are just dying to be offended."

Bobzilla
Bobzilla MegaDork
5/30/17 2:28 p.m.
1988RedT2 wrote:
racerdave600 wrote: And to comment on what Huckleberry brought up, I am sooooo sick of everyone being mock offended. I would have no issue at all with what vwcorvette brought up whether I agreed with it or not. When did we get so offended that we cannot even have disagreements and discuss the issue? This is what I consider to the biggest problem, not someone that disagrees with my position. Everything today is stated as absolute fact with no room for discussions or disagreement, but that's the very thing that has formed our country throughout it's history.
Well said. I agree.

+2. Disagreeing is what makes life interesting. If you want to live in an echo chamber, go for it. But fully expect me to make fun of you for your narrow mindedness.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
5/30/17 3:30 p.m.

Disagreement is ok. How you handle that disagreement says much about your character.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/30/17 4:52 p.m.
Brian wrote: Mad Machine, I agree. The real question is why has it been a time of relative peace. I think it is part the existence of the UN keeping small conflicts from growing the way WW1 did, and part the deterrence of atomic weapons. Although I'm sure there is more, I don't want to thread jack any further.

NATO too. Angela Merkel Said it this week. NATO was designed to keep the Soviets out of Europe, America in Europe, and the Germans from trying take over again. Interdependence tends to breed peace.

Boost_Crazy
Boost_Crazy HalfDork
5/30/17 4:58 p.m.
Edit:. Original text from FB. On this day when we remember the fallen men and women of our armed services don't forget it is the failure of world leaders that puts them in harm's way. When egos and ambition blind those in power, then it is our young who pay the ultimate price. I am sorry for your loss but more so disappointed with those who profess to lead.

Intended or not, that is definitely a political statement. Keeping it vague just makes it possible for nearly anyone to find fault with it if they wanted to. Not that it isn't a good conversation to have, but Memorial Day probably isn't the best timing. I agree that we need to be more open to conversation and people shouldn't be offended by everything, but Memorial Day is intended to honor and show respect for those who sacraficed all, it's not about politics.

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