Brian said:
Spoolpigeon said:
I may be the outlier, but my biggest beef with the sport is the dirty racing at the end of nearly every race. These guys are good and they show it throughout the race for the most part. At the end of the race they have no problem spinning or wrecking someone for the win. That’s cheap and dirty. The officials don’t seem to care about it either. They’ll hand out dozens of pit lane penalties, then turn a blind eye to the leader getting stuffed.
I would imagine that falls under “entertainment”. *shrug*
It also falls under the ''self correcting" banner. Do you think Joey Logano is going to get a break tomorrow? Not likely...
In reply to Spoolpigeon :
That has gone on almost forever at every level of the sport. It’s generally accepted, particularly at short tracks that if you are in the lead there’s a good chance the second place car will take a run at you. Guys like Earnhardt didn’t get giant followings by contented running second.
Grizz
UberDork
11/17/18 8:57 p.m.
llysgennad said:
Restrictor-plate racing was/is a joke.
The restrictor plate races make perfect sense. The cars are too damn fast at the super speedways without them. Rusty Wallace tested it years ago and was running damn near 230 mph tops and an average of 220 mph at Talladega without one. And that's just one car, you get a full pack of them drafting off each other up to probably 240+ and any small incident is likely to turn into a large, very fatal crash. For drivers and fans.
E: Also I'm pretty sure all forms of "bigger" racing series are losing fans, not just nascar. Which does stand to reason, you have a generation that apparently doesn't really care about cars paired with "why sit and watch a four hour race when I can hop on gran turismo or forza and have a more engaging time"
I know my adhd ass got bored watching nascar and I liked the series.
Spoolpigeon said:
I may be the outlier, but my biggest beef with the sport is the dirty racing at the end of nearly every race. These guys are good and they show it throughout the race for the most part. At the end of the race they have no problem spinning or wrecking someone for the win. That’s cheap and dirty. The officials don’t seem to care about it either. They’ll hand out dozens of pit lane penalties, then turn a blind eye to the leader getting stuffed.
It’s part of racing! Err, Stock car racing! I remember Petty and Pearson going at it and their timing was a tiny hair off ( easy to do at that sort of speed) and both wrecked. Pearson was able to get his car restarted and creep across the finish line.
Those respected each other completely and that’s Just the way it’s done in Stock car racing.
In reply to racerdave600 :
totally with you. I'm also not paying any attention to all professional sports/entertainment nowadays. I still love racing and football but not enough anymore to waste my valuable resting time on it. And as an additional note I love endurance races four hour football games so it's just the product itself that has become insipid. Wait is the final race tomorrow? I could maybe watch it but then I most likely will forget. 
I understand that it’s the way it has been and always will be, I’m just saying that’s the reason I don’t watch it. I want to see races won on merit.
In reply to Spoolpigeon :
At least you have a logical dislike and are able to articulate why. Instead of the usual derka derka turn left and right derka derka rednecks derka derka not stock derka derka BS that usually comes out.
Brett_Murphy said:
racerdave600 said:
As the only one here who's been there, I have my own ideas.
I think we have several people on the board who have been involved in NASCAR in one capacity or another- crew, builders, engineers, etc.
I stand corrected. I haven't seen others step up, but I may be reading the wrong posts!
