Amazing when Congress and smoking meets captalism and chemicals

SVreX wrote: 4cyl: My experience was similar to yours. I wasn't a happy feller. I've been off for 23 years. Still want 'em every once in a while. However, I DO want you to know that 1 year was a really big milestone. When I quit, I used to get POed a lot. Why the heck should I quit, when I don't get any of the benefits (like no more cravings, ability to run up stairs, etc.). But shortly after a year, one day I realized the cravings just weren't there anymore. Yes, I occasionally still get them, but overall, it got a LOT easier after a year. So, hang in there, dude! It's a happy moment when one day (which should be pretty soon for you) you realize that it doesn't have you in a headlock anymore.

Great, helpful advice, dude. I've never made it past the one year mark. Maybe that's the ticket. The last couple times, I didn't make it a month. About three weeks into the most recent attempt, I got pissed in the car, and after punching the steering wheel to the point where I was worried I'd snap it in half, I conciously said "I can't berkeleying live like this" and hauled ass to the convenience store.

You dudes who've made it through are very inspiring.

wooh boy poop, I have been close to literally puling people out of their cars in traffic and not too far from punching elderly people at the store when I was in the worst of it. I feel your pain.

poopshovel wrote: What would be even nicer is if gov't stayed the berkeley out of it and let me decide the manner in which I choose to slowly kill myself. No one is forced to smoke.

I'm cool with that, as long as the mandated national health service... I mean, insurance program is not required to pay for your cancer treatment.

(I suspect poopie is OK with that, too, but the post works as a great example.)

Duke wrote:

poopshovel wrote: What would be even nicer is if gov't stayed the berkeley out of it and let me decide the manner in which I choose to slowly kill myself. No one is forced to smoke.

I'm cool with that, as long as the mandated national health service... I mean, insurance program is not required to pay for your cancer treatment. (I suspect poopie is OK with that, too, but the post works as a great example.)

101%. It's not your responsibility to pay for $(x)00,000 worth of surgery to keep my dumb arse alive...though I will add that that's my stance whether I was a smoker or not.

Did you say your wife thinks you are a creepy big boy?

WilberM3 wrote:

SVreX wrote:

ignorant wrote: They did what they were supposed to do. Compete or die. It is good stuff and I congratulate them for not sitting down and complaining about government rulings, getting on with things and finding something even more useful. Sometimes ya gotta stop complaining and just get on with it.

Spoken like a TRUE capitalist. I am proud of you. Confused, but proud of you.

but you could say its a truly capitalist response to a manipulated "free market"

A proper capitalist and entrepreneur doesn't have time to complain... They figure out ways around and as my british boss said... "just get on with it it"

P.S.. I kinda think the same thing about this, "highly publicized" tea party tour around the U.S. What if those people stopped reliving their youth, running around chasing the dead, actually rolled up their sleeves and helped create value and turn the economy around... I don't have time to burn.. I gotta go call our offices south east asia... Seriously, I got 8pm and 9pm phone calls from home tonight..

A proper capitalist would do what's necessary to get the Government off his back.

I find it amusing that when capitalists use methods more commonly used by socialists, suddenly they get the sort of criticism socialists never did... if all of the anti-capitalist, anti-American protestors over the last 40 years had actually been contributing citizens instead of a drag on our economy, we'd be in much better shape now.

I don't know of a single "tea party" member that isn't already a contributing member of society and are already doing far more than their part for the economy. Many are making great personal financial sacrifices to try and improve things for the rest of us contributors... an idea foreign to most leftists who only want to sacrifice other people's money.

wcelliot wrote: A proper capitalist would do what's necessary to get the Government off his back.

no.. You are correct..

my dad should stop what he is doing, by running a one man insurance agency, and fight the government insurance regulations... It's the proper thing to do.. Who cares if his clients leave him because he dosen't respond to their questions or he dosen't collect any payments..

He'd be a patriot then.. A proper person, not like us "unamerican types" who go on pushing the economy higher by working our asses off every day. I'm so unamerican, I'm going to put in another 10 hours at the office today and 2 more at home.. What a socialist I am.

Ignorant...

I was complimenting you. In spite of being very different in how we very the solutions to most problems, there are a lot of things we agree on wholeheartedly.

I'm not sure how this turned into you feeling beat up on and defensive.

My apologies for starting something that got turned around so quickly.

I didn't say you had to be stupid while trying to get the Government off your back.

And some of the hardest working people I know are socialists and purport to love America... they just want to change it to something they'd like better, even if that means changing all its basic characteristics.

Sort of like if I claimed to love a classic Mini...but at the same time loudly wished that it were a V6 power rear wheel drive SUV. If I want to change the features that made the Mini unqiue among all other cars, exactly which part of the Mini am I a fan of?

And when compared to a traditional Mini fan (one that likes the Mini the way it is... or was...) a disinterested third party observer may have difficulty recognizing how my adoration for a V6 SUV is somehow similar to their love of Mini as built by the original Founders... er... Designers...

I guess they would have to clarify the nature of my affection for the Mini... , which would be that I was a fan of the Mini's potential to become a V6 SUV like all those other cars out there... because I believe it has the potential to become a better V6 SUV than those available from France, Italy, Germany, the UK, etc... not that I was so much a fan of the Mini itself.

SVreX wrote: Did you say your wife thinks you are a creepy big boy?