I can get to the mountains in 3 hours, Panama City Beach in 3 hours, 3 major cities in an hour and a half, and 3 medium cities in 20 minutes.
$250K can still buy a lot of house here. $350 with some land around it (like 10 acres or so). $550 on the water. Gorgeous large waterfront properties are under $900K.
It won't get overgrown in our lifetimes.
Schools suck. And the humidity can be pretty bad.
Gun culture is a given. You're weird if you don't have any.
MyMiatas said:If you have a business already and you and the wife are doing fine, why don't you pick a place out of the summer tourism and rent out your place? There should be a town near buy that you wished for in the past? That way you still get to rub elbows with the rich n famous and not live in the tourist town.
This is actually what I do. I have a place in PCB- we only use it in the winter (and rent it in the summer). My AL place is on a lake. Gives me my rural fix in the summer. Has a nice shop, boat, etc.
I don't have large acreage because I don't want to maintain it. I bought my AL place for $170K. It's still rural. (and will stay that way)
MyMiatas said:If you have a business already and you and the wife are doing fine, why don't you pick a place out of the summer tourism and rent out your place? There should be a town near buy that you wished for in the past? That way you still get to rub elbows with the rich n famous and not live in the tourist town.
That is actually another option we talked about. I have a friend that would probably love to rent it and that means we could keep it for when it eventually crashed around here.
The mortgage here is absurdly low so it's possible, especially if I build up a cheap piece of property elsewhere. It means I don't have a nest egg though
Antihero said:Datsun240ZGuy said:Sounds like Green Bay, Wisconsin to me.
Actually I was there recently and kinda thought the same. We stayed in Milwaukee and I liked it there, winter is super mild too
The winter part is sarcasm right?
If mild to you is snow on the ground from Dec 1st until Mid May, with typically 4-6 weeks where the daily high is single digits. At least that is what it was like when I lived there for 7 years a decade ago.
It wasn't bad, it was cold enough that snow stayed around and lakes froze so you could actually do things in winter like snowshoe, XC ski, Snowmobile, ice fish, etc unlike central IL where I am now where you still get 3 bitter cold weeks but they may be at any time between November and June and most of the rest of the winter is 35 and raining.
North East Wisconsin is great though. Plenty of rural but pretty good infrastructure lots of water (well kind and watersports kind) and a decent mix of semi-urban (Appleton/Green Bay) and rural. And as repayment for the winter you have to endure they have the best summers. High 80s occasionally 90 and low humidity. I would move back but I would never describe the winters as mild.
SV reX said:I can get to the mountains in 3 hours, Panama City Beach in 3 hours, 3 major cities in an hour and a half, and 3 medium cities in 20 minutes.
$250K can still buy a lot of house here. $350 with some land around it (like 10 acres or so). $550 on the water. Gorgeous large waterfront properties are under $900K.
It won't get overgrown in our lifetimes.
Schools suck. And the humidity can be pretty bad.
Gun culture is a given. You're weird if you don't have any.
I don't have kids so I don't care about schools really, humidity though.....
In reply to Antihero :
I'm struggling to think of anywhere in the US that doesn't have much snow, nor tornadoes, hurricanes, and/or humidity?
What I can tell you is that you at least have plenty of time to get out of the way of a hurricane vs. a tornado, if you look at the weather data the humidity in the south really isn't much higher than the Midwest, real estate, taxes & cost of living are generally less in the southern states, and you can pretty much assume most people have guns.
In reply to Antihero :
I've learned to live with it. It's important to stay in the AC couple months in the summer.
But 9 months of the year are glorious. I don't own a winter coat any more.
nocones said:Antihero said:Datsun240ZGuy said:Sounds like Green Bay, Wisconsin to me.
Actually I was there recently and kinda thought the same. We stayed in Milwaukee and I liked it there, winter is super mild too
The winter part is sarcasm right?
If mild to you is snow on the ground from Dec 1st until Mid May, with typically 4-6 weeks where the daily high is single digits. At least that is what it was like when I lived there for 7 years a decade ago.
It wasn't bad, it was cold enough that snow stayed around and lakes froze so you could actually do things in winter like snowshoe, XC ski, Snowmobile, ice fish, etc unlike central IL where I am now where you still get 3 bitter cold weeks but they may be at any time between November and June and most of the rest of the winter is 35 and raining.
North East Wisconsin is great though. Plenty of rural but pretty good infrastructure lots of water (well kind and watersports kind) and a decent mix of semi-urban (Appleton/Green Bay) and rural. I would love back but I would never describe the winters as mild.
Compared to here, they are .
I left here on December 30th to 7 degrees and 3 and a half feet of snow on the ground.
Milwaukee was 45, raining and no snow at all. Green Bay was the same.
To me that's mild
In reply to Antihero :
To me the worst part of winter is when I have to wear a sweatshirt in the morning until 10 AM.
I can work in shorts year round.
Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to Antihero :
I'm struggling to think of anywhere in the US that doesn't have much snow, nor tornadoes, hurricanes, and/or humidity?
What I can tell you is that you at least have plenty of time to get out of the way of a hurricane vs. a tornado, if you look at the weather data the humidity in the south really isn't much higher than the Midwest, real estate, taxes & cost of living are generally less in the southern states, and you can pretty much assume most people have guns.
True, one reason why I kinda set on the southwest.
I'd take humidity over hurricanes though
In reply to Antihero :
If you ever want to explore the South a bit, Mi casa es su casa.
Don't consider moving here until you've spent an August here.
SV reX said:In reply to Antihero :
I've learned to live with it. It's important to stay in the AC couple months in the summer.
But 9 months of the year are glorious. I don't own a winter coat any more.
Cold has never bothered me much, it's just the tons of snow that have got to me recently.
Hopefully this winter is mild but still if I never shoveled snow again I'd be happy
SV reX said:In reply to Antihero :
If you ever want to explore the South a bit, Mi casa es su casa.
Don't consider moving here until you've spent an August here.
I might just take you up on that, you never know, thank you.
In reply to Antihero :
I'm far enough inland that hurricanes are mostly a non-issue.
Tornadoes happen in lots of places, but they aren't really a regional weather event. They are completely unpredictable, and don't effect entire regions. They jump from property to property.
Antihero said:Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to Antihero :
I'm struggling to think of anywhere in the US that doesn't have much snow, nor tornadoes, hurricanes, and/or humidity?
What I can tell you is that you at least have plenty of time to get out of the way of a hurricane vs. a tornado, if you look at the weather data the humidity in the south really isn't much higher than the Midwest, real estate, taxes & cost of living are generally less in the southern states, and you can pretty much assume most people have guns.
True, one reason why I kinda set on the southwest.
I'd take humidity over hurricanes though
We love the southwest, but the lack of available fresh water is one reason we've not really considered moving there. Although I'd suggest New Mexico, as it's generally cheaper & has quite a bit to offer. We really liked the Alamogordo & Cloudcroft area!
In reply to Antihero :
Completely legit offer.
And I'll bet I can think of someone who would be willing to consider a business partnership with you. 
Antihero said:MyMiatas said:If you have a business already and you and the wife are doing fine, why don't you pick a place out of the summer tourism and rent out your place? There should be a town near buy that you wished for in the past? That way you still get to rub elbows with the rich n famous and not live in the tourist town.
That is actually another option we talked about. I have a friend that would probably love to rent it and that means we could keep it for when it eventually crashed around here.
The mortgage here is absurdly low so it's possible, especially if I build up a cheap piece of property elsewhere. It means I don't have a nest egg though
Ahh but your current home is a "nest egg". A nice nearby area/town buy a fixer upper (since your in construction). Rent out your place for enough to pay your mortgage and then some. That should help with the winter blues. How much snow do you receive there? Does it stick around or is it like Denver?
SV reX said:In reply to Antihero :
Completely legit offer.
And I'll bet I can think of someone who would be willing to consider a business partnership with you.
Now that could be cool, and great story fodder.
"So how did you become business partners? Oh , we met on a forum that makes Zamboni's into race cars for next to no money"
Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) said:Antihero said:Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to Antihero :
I'm struggling to think of anywhere in the US that doesn't have much snow, nor tornadoes, hurricanes, and/or humidity?
What I can tell you is that you at least have plenty of time to get out of the way of a hurricane vs. a tornado, if you look at the weather data the humidity in the south really isn't much higher than the Midwest, real estate, taxes & cost of living are generally less in the southern states, and you can pretty much assume most people have guns.
True, one reason why I kinda set on the southwest.
I'd take humidity over hurricanes though
We love the southwest, but the lack of available fresh water is one reason we've not really considered moving there. Although I'd suggest New Mexico, as it's generally cheaper & has quite a bit to offer. We really liked the Alamogordo & Cloudcroft area!
The water thing is a huge concern to me, even though sone say it's a bit overblown
As far as water goes, it's always easy to dig a well here. We are sitting on top of 100,000 square miles of one of the world's most productive aquifers.
MyMiatas said:Antihero said:MyMiatas said:If you have a business already and you and the wife are doing fine, why don't you pick a place out of the summer tourism and rent out your place? There should be a town near buy that you wished for in the past? That way you still get to rub elbows with the rich n famous and not live in the tourist town.
That is actually another option we talked about. I have a friend that would probably love to rent it and that means we could keep it for when it eventually crashed around here.
The mortgage here is absurdly low so it's possible, especially if I build up a cheap piece of property elsewhere. It means I don't have a nest egg though
Ahh but your current home is a "nest egg". A nice nearby area/town buy a fixer upper (since your in construction). Rent out your place for enough to pay your mortgage and then some. That should help with the winter blues. How much snow do you receive there? Does it stick around or is it like Denver?
I think the average here a year is roughly ten feet of snow. It stays forever and you can expect at least 2 feet on the ground all winter.
I have pictures as a child of me standing by my basketball hoop in the snow. The rim is at shin level lol
In reply to Antihero :
TEN FEET??? 
I've only seen snow once in the last 25 years, and it was less than a quarter inch. My kids made a tiny snowman that was only 4" tall by scraping the snow off car windshields.
No wonder why you don't like snow. I moved from the snow because of just snow blowing once and a while maybe two to three inches. And it didn't really stick around. But the winter from Oct-May kind of sucked
In reply to SV reX :
Oh yeah, here's a picture of my Ranger one winter. Yes, that's the ladder rack
In reply to Antihero :
Nope. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
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