Antihero's Where The berkeley do I move to thread

I know this is an unpopular perspective, but another  possible consideration is weather changes related to global warming. 
 

This year was hotter than it has ever been in my area. It's possible that was just an outlier, but all the weather professionals are saying it was related to climate change.

I don't expect this to be a major consideration in the next couple years, but you are young.  If you are relocating to a forever home, it's certainly within the realm of my imagination that 20 years from now some of the places that have historically been nice retirement locations (because of the climate)  become unbearable, and some of the places that have been much to cold to consider for retirement become quite lovely and desirable (and pricey)  

Good luck figuring out which is which. 

I read all of none of this thread, initially wanted to say florida- except you said not so hot. 

Oklahoma? I think they like guns there. 

Come poke around PA. We have a little of everything here. Reasonable gun laws, some snow almost everywhere, and lots of it in the north west mountains, but none south central anymore. Humid summers, but no where near as bad as the costal south. Mostly good aquifers, but check anything you're interested in carefully for industrial contamination, especially in the rural areas, as there has been de-industiralization all over the state for over a century.

SV reX said:

I know this is an unpopular perspective, but another  possible consideration is weather changes related to global warming. 
 

This year was hotter than it has ever been in my area. It's possible that was just an outlier, but all the weather professionals are saying it was related to climate change.

I don't expect this to be a major consideration in the next couple years, but you are young.  If you are relocating to a forever home, it's certainly within the realm of my imagination that 20 years from now some of the places that have historically been nice retirement locations (because of the climate)  become unbearable, and some of the places that have been much to cold to consider for retirement become quite lovely and desirable (and pricey)  

Good luck figuring out which is which. 

I had the same thought. Very tough to predict the changes that will happen in the next 20 years.

I'll suggest SW Virginia/WV/TN area. Beautiful place and close to some things. Weather isn't extreme in any direction. The people, I didn't have the most positive experience with them but YMMV.  If you don't mind a mild hurricane threat then I'd suggest eastern shore, or eastern peninsula VA (not the 757). Along the Rappahannock River and or Potomac rivers.

My youngest will be graduating from high school in 10 years and my wife and I also look for land that would be a nice forever home. I've been looking at places that are within 100-150 miles of DC. We want to be in a more rural area with an easy reach to real diversity and bigger cities. 

In reply to Antihero :

Gooding, Idaho

Mndsm said:

I read all of none of this thread, initially wanted to say florida- except you said not so hot. 

 

Oklahoma? I think they like guns there. 

Tulsa has the largest gun show in the world. And just an hour outside you can live in small towns and still be close to a large airport if you need. My fiance used to live in Salina, OK. Lots of great driving roads nearby and when she moved down here 6 years, she sold a 2/2/2 1500 sq ft home on 17 acres. 

https://www.tulsaarmsshow.com/

In reply to z31maniac :

So....... they like guns? 

Also, tornadoes and E36 M3. Neat weather. 

I just saw that you are at the top of Idaho. I am half an hour north of Salt Lake City. I am near the edge of the populated area towards the direction of pretty. There are a lot of areas that are "just a little too far away" that might or might not fit your bill.

Regardless, we have almost 2000 square feet of fully furnished basement (full size kitchen, laundry, its own furnace, etc.). You are welcome to come out and basecamp here while you check areas out. If nothing else, we have a bunch of nice back roads.

Edit: I just noticed I did not reply to anybody in particular. Count it as a fairly open offer.

In reply to SV reX :

I guess I'll just have to die (somewhat) young and leave a (somewhat) pretty corpse then lol

yupididit said:

I'll suggest SW Virginia/WV/TN area. Beautiful place and close to some things. Weather isn't extreme in any direction. The people, I didn't have the most positive experience with them but YMMV.  If you don't mind a mild hurricane threat then I'd suggest eastern shore, or eastern peninsula VA (not the 757). Along the Rappahannock River and or Potomac rivers.

My youngest will be graduating from high school in 10 years and my wife and I also look for land that would be a nice forever home. I've been looking at places that are within 100-150 miles of DC. We want to be in a more rural area with an easy reach to real diversity and bigger cities. 

Ideally I want to deal with people as little as possible, but noted for research purposes.

Recon1342 said:

In reply to Antihero :

Gooding, Idaho

 

Hmm, I don't think I know much about it. 

Researching 

matthewmcl said:

I just saw that you are at the top of Idaho. I am half an hour north of Salt Lake City. I am near the edge of the populated area towards the direction of pretty. There are a lot of areas that are "just a little too far away" that might or might not fit your bill.

Regardless, we have almost 2000 square feet of fully furnished basement (full size kitchen, laundry, its own furnace, etc.). You are welcome to come out and basecamp here while you check areas out. If nothing else, we have a bunch of nice back roads.

Edit: I just noticed I did not reply to anybody in particular. Count it as a fairly open offer.

Thank you and you never know, I might just take you up on that. It's appreciated 

In reply to Antihero :

It's well off the beaten path, small town feel, close enough to bigger areas to make construction work pay, but far enough out that it's not a hub.

In reply to Recon1342 :

sounds like what I like.

Antihero said:

Fueled by Caffeine said:

I'm gonna say go north and try the UP.    Hills.  Skiing. Mountain biking.  Not many people. Cheap land. Lots of trees. 
 

or north of Duluth MN on the big lake. You can get plenty of construction work in Duluth while you live in the middle of nowhere. Bring your long John's though. Duluth is big enough to have a good hospital, university and good shopping. But it thins out quick just 20-30 min outside. 

Isn't the UP known for its massive amounts of snow though?

Now it is. But with global warming who knows.  You're next to one of the largest freshwater bodies in the world.   People are already starting to market the upper Midwest as a climate "safe" retirement spot. 

We just bought 62 acres in Creston NC with a house, shop, barn, and a mobile home for $600k. There are places that are cheaper but we had some specific requirements about altitude, streams, and beds.

Highs are in the 70s and 80s. Lows around 0 to 10. 24" or less annual snow fall. 

There is so much water it runs across the ground. The house we just bought is fed from a spring box. 

In my book, this may be the best place in the world from a weather standpoint. Lush and cool in the summer, not too cold in the winter. 

Eastern Oregon might fit your criteria. It can be as rural as you want, decent gun laws (for now at least), and very pretty. Bend has gotta crazy expensive recently but the rest of the region shouldn't be too bad. The Cascade mountain range is the line between famously wet Oregon and high desert. You will get some snow out there but it's not nearly as bad as where you are now. 

Edit: I should point out that I've been a West Coaster my whole life so my perspective of "affordable" real estate is skewed. 

In reply to Toyman! :

Based on this map, I was going to recommend the tri-city area of Kingston, Johnson City, Bristol, TN.   This is all the very eastern edge of TN or about 7:00 in the red circle below.  All that blue area in eastern TN.  

Where Toyman suggested falls in that red circle also, at about 6:00 in the NC portion.  

Antihero said:

NermalSnert (Forum Supporter) said:

Sulligent, Alabama. Sort of kidding but not. I bought a car there 8 years ago and it reminded me of 1970 Oxford, MS before it blew up and got ruined. I hate seeing my home town turn into what it has. We have room for you in Hickory Valley. I'm seeing large chunks of land being bought up by "rich folks from out of town" though.

Hickory Valley sounds very small which is kinda perfect really.

 

Tell me more, the little I know about the general area is humidity basically. Admittedly I'm not a huge fan, when we went thru Springfield Missouri it was 90 degrees and 90 percent humidity.....which was horrible

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SV reX said:

I know this is an unpopular perspective, but another  possible consideration is weather changes related to global warming. 
 

This year was hotter than it has ever been in my area. It's possible that was just an outlier, but all the weather professionals are saying it was related to climate change.

I don't expect this to be a major consideration in the next couple years, but you are young.  If you are relocating to a forever home, it's certainly within the realm of my imagination that 20 years from now some of the places that have historically been nice retirement locations (because of the climate)  become unbearable, and some of the places that have been much to cold to consider for retirement become quite lovely and desirable (and pricey)  

Good luck figuring out which is which. 

Please do more research on this.  NASA dot gov and look up the Tonga volcano.  That is one primary reasons it was hotter this past summer.  It's going to be hotter for the next several summers as a result of that eruption too.  NASA is recalculating now.  
 

Then ask yourself why no major news outlets mentioned this and all forgot NASA correctly predicted a hotter summer as a result.  

Northwest Arkansas

Well Toyman stole my thunder, but I was going to suggest NW NC.  Pilot Mt, or Elkin if you need bigger, Mount Airy (maybe too crowded due to all the Mayberry tourists, Sparta (maybe too small).  I move move to Elkin in a heartbeat if I could.      

John Welsh said:

In reply to Toyman! :

Based on this map, I was going to recommend the tri-city area of Kingston, Johnson City, Bristol, TN.   This is all the very eastern edge of TN or about 7:00 in the red circle below.  All that blue area in eastern TN.  

Where Toyman suggested falls in that red circle also, at about 6:00 in the NC portion.  

I find it interesting how sudden the tornado line is.

In reply to Mndsm :

Mountains change weather.  Notice the lack of tornadoes west of the Rockies too.  
 

I bet you can correlate that map with topography and the prevailing jet stream, but what do I know?  
 

I had to explain tornadoes generally travel northeast to a really smart guy a few years back.  The jet stream and rotation of the Earth both contribute to that.  
 

Almost everything on Earth is related somehow.  Nothing is nearly the mystery it seems.  
 

A giant volcano putting trillions of gallons of water in the atmosphere increases retained heat.  A lot of heat gets trapped and reflected back by that water vapor.  Everyone has heard of the greenhouse effect.  There ya go.

It might take a while for all that water to settle back in the ocean too.  Yes next summer will be warmer than usual too.  
 

Have a great evening!