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bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter)
bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/25/23 3:25 p.m.

The backyard ultra world championships are on right now in Wisconsin.

You do a 6 Mile loop of a trail every hour, and anytime left from the hour you get to rest but you have to tow the line every new hour. Last Man standing wins but even after the second last falls out you have to complete the 6 Mile loop for it to count. One of my wife's friends and running partners is in it and he's been running for 103 hours now. He's taking between 49 and 55 minutes a loop so he gets around 5 to 8 minutes of rest between loops. Just enough time to bandage the blisters and get your shoes back on. Sounds horrific to me.

https://backyardultra.com/

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/25/23 3:36 p.m.

Don’t let my wife see this. 

Scotty Con Queso
Scotty Con Queso UltraDork
10/25/23 3:37 p.m.

No.  I'm a runner, but not THAT kind of runner.  5-8 miles is where I draw the line.  I've been wanting to do another half but keep putting it off.

What you described sounds like those psychos who say they like hot sauces for the "flavor" but eat ghost pepper hot sauce that literally burns your innards.  No thanks. 

fusion66
fusion66 Reader
10/25/23 3:38 p.m.

I have followed it since the start. Truly impressed by the performance of your young Canadian friend.  

Harvey (the other remaining runner) seems to be struggling more at times but really hard to get into their sleep deprived heads and worn out bodies. 

For clarification the loop is 4.167 miles which means they complete 100 miles every 24 hours. It takes place in Tennessee.

Really redefines what the human body and mind is capable of. 

bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter)
bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/25/23 5:21 p.m.
fusion66 said:

I have followed it since the start. Truly impressed by the performance of your young Canadian friend.  

Harvey (the other remaining runner) seems to be struggling more at times but really hard to get into their sleep deprived heads and worn out bodies. 

For clarification the loop is 4.167 miles which means they complete 100 miles every 24 hours. It takes place in Tennessee.

Really redefines what the human body and mind is capable of. 

Yes my bad. I meant 6 km in Canadian

bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter)
bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/25/23 6:12 p.m.

He is still going at our 106 so he has now run 424 miles and counting.

Devolved
Devolved New Reader
10/25/23 8:22 p.m.

I've been seeing updates posted by one of my ultra friends that has run (organized) one of these events. Looking at the live results, looks like Harvey Lewis wins with 108 yards. 450 miles...

Three people beat last year's record of 102 yards.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
10/25/23 10:12 p.m.

I am a terrible runner.  Reading about and seeing ultra runners is fascinating to me though.  Mad props to them all!

bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter)
bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/26/23 12:16 a.m.
Devolved said:

I've been seeing updates posted by one of my ultra friends that has run (organized) one of these events. Looking at the live results, looks like Harvey Lewis wins with 108 yards. 450 miles...

Three people beat last year's record of 102 yards.

My wife's friend was second. He went out for his hundred and seventh and ran about a mile and walked back. She said he was questioning his own sanity on the last two or three rounds. He could have still continued to run but his head got the better of him and the other guy won the psychological battle.

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/26/23 6:35 a.m.

This is a fascinating book if anyone is interested.

 

 

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) UltimaDork
10/26/23 6:59 a.m.

After fracturing both tibias due to running in 2020 and 2021 (but mostly 2020) I read about things like this and wonder how many ways I would have to improve how I run to be able to do anything approaching something like this safely.  I envy people who can just build up to doing something like this.

Don't think I actually want to do it though.

camopaint0707
camopaint0707 Reader
10/26/23 8:06 a.m.

I used to run as much as I did car things.  Until I got sick of hurting my body.  So I decided to hurt cars instead.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/26/23 8:21 a.m.

Those folks are amazing. I mean I've done a lot of half marathons and a few whole marathons but this is totally different league. I had a guy that did ultra's as my trainer when I was serious on it and the pure dedication to the sport is amazing. It's a lifestyle and man are they dedicated to it. 

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/26/23 8:25 a.m.

Never heard of this.   

WilD
WilD Dork
10/26/23 8:40 a.m.

Very cool.  I have had a casual interest in this for some years and read a couple of books by ultra runners or about the sport in general.  It's neat stuff.  There was a time when I thought I might like to work up to running very long distances, but I was mostly just into the trail running out in nature aspect.  I worked my way up to running around half-marathon distance (13 miles) before a bad case of plantar fasciitis knocked me out of running for over a year and never really got back into it.  The comitment these folks make to run that long/far is mind boggling.

slefain
slefain UltimaDork
10/26/23 9:48 a.m.

Reminds me of this:

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/26/23 9:53 a.m.

So wait, am I understanding this correctly? The winner ran for 4 consecutive days? Without sleep, and I'm guessing minimal food and drink that could be consumed while running?

And they do this for fun?

This sounds like something from Abu Ghraib.

At least tell me there was a Forest or a Gump involved.

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/26/23 10:08 a.m.

In reply to RevRico :

Read the book.

 

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/26/23 10:13 a.m.

We went hiking in the San Juan mountians of Colorado last summer. We took a very hard trail, about 8 hours and 2500 feet of climbing. We were on the edge of our abilities to do this hike, stopping a lot for snacks and water, and we were toasted by the end of it. We're both casual runners, up to 6 or 7 miles a few days a week, so we're in pretty decent shape.

And the whole day we got passed by these psychos doing a 50km trail run marathon. https://www.aravaiparunning.com/silverton-alpine/ . Those people are whole 'nother level.

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/26/23 10:24 a.m.

When I was in college, one of my professor's (exercise physiology) ran the Pike's Peak Marathon. It started 14 .1 miles from the summit and then came back down another 14.1.

I can't imaging that level of torture.

Devolved
Devolved New Reader
10/26/23 10:36 a.m.

In reply to bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) :

At those distances, so much is mental as well as physical. That is hugely impressive. And insane. Kudos to your wife's friend. 

VolvoHeretic
VolvoHeretic GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/26/23 11:52 a.m.
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
10/26/23 11:18 p.m.
Devolved said:

In reply to bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) :

At those distances, so much is mental as well as physical. That is hugely impressive. And insane. Kudos to your wife's friend. 

The mental part might be the biggest portion.  More people could do it physically than mentally.  

JesseWolfe
JesseWolfe Reader
10/27/23 4:15 a.m.

My brother does this, at 56YO he runs a 100+ mile race probably once a month.  He ran the Cocadona 250 earlier this year, and I think placed second in his age/gender group.   I enjoy running with him when he is around, he's a great motivator and a good coach. 

 

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxmN8NIy5_vtd9Hl20KRnO7lcFP5GvbI42?si=pUhQ7wBWosuBhaOS

fusion66
fusion66 Reader
10/27/23 7:46 a.m.

The race organizer/mastermind, Lazarus Lake (aka Gary Cantrell), also is responsible for The Barkley Marathon (100+ miles in the woods in Tennessee that has had only 21 finishers since 1995)  I spent a few hours walking with him on his journey to walk across the US in 2019 apparently fueled by Dr. Pepper and Marlboros smiley

He post updates throughout the event and this final one for the race is a nice summary of the way it ended. Copy and pasted from Facebook , Big Dogs Backyard Ultra Run Group. 

 

hours 103-108

quiet desperation

everyone realizes the final hours are approaching.

of the three remaining warriors harvey lewis is clearly in the worst condition.

he has not been getting through the loops in time for more than 1 minute or two of sleep for several days.

he is an older runner (approaching 50) and the damage of the last 4 days shows.

bartosz fudali and ihor verys have looked invincible.

as any backyarder who has gone deep can tell you,

they are not as unfazed as they look.

we are well past 400 miles,

and you do not run 400 miles and not feel it.

the amount of pain being contained behind those impassive faces is unimaginable.

but this is the fate of the backyarder.

to show weakness only feeds your opponent.

and so you must absorb any amount of punishment

and hide it behind an expressionless countenance.

.

someone wants to know;

"after harvey is gone,

can the other two make a pact to share the victory?"

of course the answer is no.

in the backyard only one can win.

and to win you must outlast all others.

.

fudali drops after 103.

watching him being almost carried from the field

i am reminded of my conversation with sam harvey;

"it is amazing how far your mind can make your body go"

he told me

"and it is amazing, when the mind lets go, how helpless you are"

.

as they line up for 104 i wonder

is that confidence in ihor's expression

or am i projecting it because i think the race is now ihor's?

it is not just me

i don't know if anyone,

outside harvey's mother,

thinks harvey still has a chance.

(and i don't know for a fact that she still believes it).

.

but this is the backyard.

ihor cannot simply use his 20 year age advantage

to run off and leave harvey.

he must stay the course until harvey is broken.

.

the first yard ihor cruises home well ahead.

we are left to wait for harvey to come in just under the time limit again.

he is sweating profusely in the heat.

we almost feel sorry for him in his doomed quest.

only harvey does not seem to grasp his plight.

minutes later he is in the starting corral

laughing and talking.

the process repeats

and repeats

and repeats.

groundhog hour has no defined end.

and i see ihor give "the look"

for just a moment

"what does it take to kill this guy?"

is written on his face.

then the impassive mask returns.

.

as the heat of the day breaks

and we head towards the night loops

everyone in camp starts thinking the same thing;

"they are going to go for 5 days"

clearly it is going to take a day loop to stop harvey.

if he could survive the last few day loops

what can possibly stop him at night.

harvey grins and laughs and talks

still seemingly unaware that he is doomed.

unfazed by piling mile after mile on those battered legs.

he actually starts coming in quicker as the heat dies away.

.

and a funny thing happens.

ihor's invincibility seems to waver.

harvey wins the last day loop.

.

as they line up for the first night loop

the one that takes the two survivors to 450 miles,

their roles seem to be reversed.

if you had not witnessed the past four and a half days

you would think harvey was the one with the race in hand

and ihor was the one doomed.

it was harvey out front as the last survivors headed out onto the road for the 108th time.

.

the 2023 championship was different than all the others.

with live coverage out on the course we could see the major events as they happened

and after a short time i heard someone say;

"he's stopped!"

then;

"he's turned around"

"he's coming back!"

"harvey?"

"no; ihor!"

i went to look for myself

and it was true.

if harvey can finish this yard he is going to win.

.

some came and begged to be allowed to go out and exhort ihor to go on.

no.

it doesnt work that way.

every runner must face the backyard loops alone.

ihor had to be the one to decide if he wanted to go on.

.

well,

you all know how it ends.

ihor walks back and capitulates.

harvey lewis;

too old

too slow

never had a chance

but he just could not get that through his thick head.

harvey lewis is the last man on earth.

.

neither of the two magnificent warriors could walk off under their own power.

450 miles straight?

that is beyond the physical capacity of any person.

but when the mind takes over

we are capable of the impossible.

.

where does our human limit lie?

we still dont know.

because in the end

harvey's limit was somewhere beyond.

his will to win remains unmeasured.

.

backyard championship 2023 was a victory for the format.

because we assembled the mentally toughest humans on earth

and the race was won by

not the fastest

not strongest

not the youngest...

.

but by the one with the most sheer will to win

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