Apis_Mellifera
Apis_Mellifera Reader
3/4/13 9:59 a.m.

Here's a picture of my Grandfather and his sister taken in the 40s while he was on leave from the Army. I've been up and down Superior Ave on Google Maps and can't find this street corner. Anyone recognize the names, building, etc? I see Cleveland Railways Building, Hotel Erie, and a sign for a roller derby. I'm pretty sure the photo was taken in Cleveland, though it could be Columbus. I found Superior Ave in Cleveland so I looked there until I remembered that GRM is the grassroots Google... or something like that.

Here's the link if photobucket clams up: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/fall_down_dead/cleveland.jpg

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltimaDork
3/4/13 10:02 a.m.

No, but I hear it rocks.

mightymike
mightymike Reader
3/4/13 10:19 a.m.
CarKid1989
CarKid1989 SuperDork
3/4/13 10:31 a.m.

i live outside cleveland. if its really important to ya i can cruise up and down the street and find the exact area if ya want

RossD
RossD UberDork
3/4/13 10:43 a.m.

Identify the church. Roller derbies rarely outlast churches.

Maroon92
Maroon92 MegaDork
3/4/13 10:43 a.m.
CarKid1989 wrote: i live outside cleveland. if its really important to ya i can cruise up and down the street and find the exact area if ya want

I'm up by the lakeshore every weekend this month. I could spend some time out there, also, if you'd like.

Rusted_Busted_Spit
Rusted_Busted_Spit GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/4/13 10:46 a.m.

I can not take credit for this but I asked a guy I know that lives there and here is what he said:

"Corner of East 9th and Superior, the Church in the background is The Cathedral of Saint John the Evangelist, saintjohncathedral.com "

He works just down the street from the church.

RossD
RossD UberDork
3/4/13 10:56 a.m.

But that church looks different... at least from google street view.

bravenrace
bravenrace PowerDork
3/4/13 10:57 a.m.

The one sign says "Cleveland railway", so I'm thinking it's probably Cleveland. Another sign says "Press". There used to be a paper called "The Cleveland Press" that was in business from the late 1800's until 1982. That may be the sign for it, but I"m not sure. I tried to find out all the locations for that paper but was unsuccessful. If you can find that out it might lead you to what that road is.

bravenrace
bravenrace PowerDork
3/4/13 11:00 a.m.

This is saint John's in Cleveland:

Apis_Mellifera
Apis_Mellifera Reader
3/4/13 11:02 a.m.

I looked at that particular church for a while and the construction is similar, but not the same. A little more google found a picture taken by a guy inside the "oreo building" and the caption says he's looking out the window at the Cleveland Railway Building.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/4/13 11:03 a.m.
N Sperlo wrote: No, but I hear it rocks.

It sure does! (Can't believe I'm first with this)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY

(NSFW audio)

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 PowerDork
3/4/13 11:03 a.m.

Edit: the Brave One beat me by a couple of minutes. We were typing at the same time.

The Cathedral of St John the Evangelist Located at the corner of E. 9th and Superior.

Wiki Says said: In 1943, Archbishop Joseph Schrembs announced a plan to renovate the Cathderal, but due to World War II the plan did not move forward until 1945. After World War II, Schremb's successor, Edward Francis Hoban continued Schrembs' plan. Construction began in 1946 when the old cathedral was enlarged and the brick exterior refaced in orange Tennessee Crabtree limestone, in an ashlar pattern. The architectural firm of Stickle, Kelly and Stickle oversaw construction which also included a new bell tower and interior decoration.

The hard part is that the church does not look the same today as it did Pre-WW2

My thoughts were... The car in the picture is not parked on Superior but it is still parked on a big street. For this North/South street to be a big street, it pretty much has to be in the central downtown district.
The only church I could find that bordered Superior in the central downtown is this one but it looked slightly different. That lead me to Wiki. I was looking for history of a fire or reconstruction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_St.John_the_Evangelist%28Cleveland,_Ohio%29

This should take you to Google Street View

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
3/4/13 11:10 a.m.
GameboyRMH wrote:
N Sperlo wrote: No, but I hear it rocks.
It sure does! (Can't believe I'm first with this) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY (NSFW audio)

DAMN! Missed it by that much.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltimaDork
3/4/13 11:46 a.m.

Setup and SPIKE

Apis_Mellifera
Apis_Mellifera Reader
3/4/13 11:48 a.m.

I think this is correct:

"Corner of East 9th and Superior, the Church in the background is The Cathedral of Saint John the Evangelist"

I found this postcard, note statue to the right of the building.

and this, note Hotel Erie sign to the left Side note, you can just make out Hotel Olmstead on the left margin. If you zoom in on the Roller Derby sign, you can see the word "Olmstead"

RossD
RossD UberDork
3/4/13 11:54 a.m.
CarKid1989
CarKid1989 SuperDork
3/8/13 8:52 a.m.

did this help the OP any?

aussiesmg
aussiesmg UltimaDork
3/8/13 9:44 p.m.

I'm going to try you guys out in Melbourne

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