kazoospec
kazoospec Reader
8/8/12 9:08 p.m.

I've been out of them for a while after having spent significant amounts of my 20's working on Falcon 4.0, Jane's USAF, etc., etc. Up until recently, I just wasn't anything other than "arcade quality" crap. On the other hand, I no longer have the time to spend a month figuring out how to navigate, taxi and land an F-16 (Falcon 4.0).

I recently found this: http://birdsofsteel.com/ for my PS3. Nice balance of a sim without a HUGE learning curve and decent, often historically based, single player missions and campaigns and a reasonably active multiplayer online community. (Although getting blown out of the sky by someone you know is likely a pimple-faced 13 year old does get frustrating.) On realistic mode, its actually a pretty decent details built in to it, like a really quick ground loop if you just throw open the throttle on an ME-109 to take off. Pretty reasonably priced too at roughly $40. I know there are a few military aviation buffs on here, and I had heard nothing about this until I stumbled on the trailer on Youtube, so thought I'd share.

So, if you need a break from GT5 . . .

RexSeven
RexSeven SuperDork
8/8/12 10:26 p.m.

I like the Strike Fighters 2 series. It's very reminiscent of Jane's Fighters Anthology, in that it's not as arcadey as Ace Combat but not an uber-hardcore sim like Falcon 4.0. The modding community is HUGE so just about every jet fighter you can think of is covered. The stock Soviet planes aren't flyable but fan-made mods make them flyable and add cockpits and more realistic flight engines. Many military folks say the stock playable planes "fly" very closely to the real things.

It's not perfect- The game leans heavily towards the late 1950s-early 1980 era so more modern jets, missiles, and all helicopters aren't covered. Fan-made modern fighters like the Raptor and Super Hornet have some bodges to make do. The latest edition with the Tomcat was said to have updated the avionics and enemy AI to accommodate more advanced radars and missiles, but haven't tried it yet. All that being said, it's a lot of fun and I recommend it for a zoomie fix.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/8/12 11:12 p.m.

Maybe you should build one of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7APOJDJM2iM

kazoospec
kazoospec Reader
8/9/12 6:12 a.m.
EvanB wrote: Maybe you should build one of these. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7APOJDJM2iM

I've already got a decent start. I have one of the two the ejection seats from an Air Force F-4C (serial (6)40679) in my basement. Its been test assembled, refinished and is now awaiting re-assembly. Its been that way for a while because until recently I didn't have any place to display it. Its looking like that might be my "winter project".

Racer1ab
Racer1ab HalfDork
8/9/12 7:43 a.m.

Birds of Steel looks awesome! I picked up the prior version, Il Sturmovik, for 360, and it's ok, but missing a lot of WW2 aircraft I like.

My girlfriend's dad is a huge WW2 buff, and enjoys watching the game. He says it's as good as those dogfight shows they had on the History channel.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/9/12 7:50 a.m.

You might also like the old F22 Lightning series. Realistic flight physics and it gives you plenty of controls but you don't have to be flipping fuel pumps on and off etc, easy to pick up and play.

Racer1ab
Racer1ab HalfDork
11/5/12 10:42 a.m.

Just picked up Birds of Steel on Amazon.com for around 15 bucks, and I thought I remembered a topic on here about it.

It's pretty darn good! Nearly all your favorite WW2 aircraft are on here and available to fly!

I haven't earned my lions to buy those extra planes in the hangar, but if you don't feel like grinding through the game to get them you can buy lions and get access to a lot of stuff pretty quick.

I'll give it till around Christmas before I consider buying points though.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
11/5/12 11:39 a.m.

Not yet, I'm asking Santa for one of these:

http://www.condorsoaring.com/

Rusted_Busted_Spit
Rusted_Busted_Spit GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
11/5/12 12:15 p.m.

Over the last couple of weeks I pulled down the demo of Birds of Steel and Damage Inc. BoS seems better but the other is not bad at all either.

e_pie
e_pie HalfDork
11/5/12 12:17 p.m.

X-Plane is pretty good.

kazoospec
kazoospec HalfDork
11/5/12 2:16 p.m.

In reply to Racer1ab: I've had it for a few months now. My only gripe is not only do you need $/Lions to buy the planes, but for some of the high level stuff, you need major experience points, which take way longer than the money to accumulate. My dreams of buying a 262 and raining death on the pimple-faced 13 year old online sim community have taken longer to realize than I anticipated. Still a great game, though.

yamaha
yamaha Dork
11/5/12 3:28 p.m.

I think I'm buying this friday at gamestop for the 360.....they had it new for $20.

Will
Will Dork
11/5/12 6:35 p.m.

There's no telling how many hours I put on the Graphsim F/A-18 Hornet series when I was a bit younger. I also enjoyed A-10 Attack!, Chuck Yeager's Air Combat, and Warbirds. I had a pretty decent HOTAS setup for them, too.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 SuperDork
11/5/12 8:33 p.m.

I really want to get back into PC flying sims (mainly combat) as i want to start working on a pilot license. I loved the old Microsoft Combat Flight Simulators and put many hours into those as a child.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
11/5/12 8:43 p.m.

Andy Hollis knows a bit about flight sims: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Hollis

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/5/12 9:03 p.m.
Will wrote: There's no telling how many hours I put on the Graphsim F/A-18 Hornet series when I was a bit younger. I also enjoyed A-10 Attack!, Chuck Yeager's Air Combat, and Warbirds. I had a pretty decent HOTAS setup for them, too.

Oh, lord, Chuck Yeager's Air Combat! I was obsessed with that. Along with other early 90s sims like Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, Red Baron, Falcon 3.0, Aces of the Pacific, even Strike Commander (once it finally came out).

02Pilot
02Pilot HalfDork
11/5/12 9:37 p.m.

I cannot believe this thread has gone this long without mentioning IL2 Sturmovik. Nothing I can remember has offered so many planes and maps, and with the mods now available it just gets bigger and better. I haven't flown much in a while, but I have kept up with developments in the community.

A few random shots from my more active days:

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kazoospec
kazoospec HalfDork
11/6/12 5:44 p.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: Andy Hollis knows a bit about flight sims: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Hollis

Aw man, and I thought he was cool BEFORE I knew all of this^^^^^. (Almost calls for the "We're not worthy" hotlink)

BTW - as for the retro sims, I devoted WAAAAAY too much of my life to Janes Anthology.

Strizzo
Strizzo UberDork
11/6/12 6:09 p.m.

i was like microprose, why is that so familiar? then i remembered how many hours i sat in front of this game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ROwe52FqFI

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