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AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
9/18/23 4:12 p.m.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
9/18/23 4:30 p.m.

Well... this is a bit disconcerting: https://abcnews.go.com/US/marines-continue-search-35-after-mishap-officials-order/story?id=103287655 

I know it's not likely possible, but is the newer F35 software hackable?

BenB
BenB HalfDork
9/18/23 5:38 p.m.

Craigslist Charleston

"Used F-35 Stealth Fighter. No damage to landing gear as came in belly-up, engine ingested an eensy weensy bit of mud in non-piloted landing. Nothing to worry about, already pressure-washed it. Retains full stealth capabilities.  

Air conditioner works just needs some Freon. 

Will require new canopy and Martin-Baker. Includes half box of Crayons left by former occupant. (64 Color) "

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/23 5:51 p.m.
bobzilla said:

Well... this is a bit disconcerting: https://abcnews.go.com/US/marines-continue-search-35-after-mishap-officials-order/story?id=103287655 

I know it's not likely possible, but is the newer F35 software hackable?

Nothing's totally unhackable, but I'd say an F35 is probably one of the least hackable things on the planet, right behind the comms systems you'd need to break into to start communicating with F35-related things.

secretariata (Forum Supporter)
secretariata (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
9/18/23 5:55 p.m.

I may have been slightly involved in an incident where a trailer mounted missile launcher (antiaircraft missiles) was dropped from a chopper into a swamp. Took a magnetometer and a few months to find it because it was buried approximately 30 feet in the mud. So it's quite possible that it is not visible from aerial view.

cabbagecop
cabbagecop Reader
9/18/23 6:51 p.m.

Some tweakers right now are trying to figure out where the cats are and stripping the copper out of it. 

stafford1500
stafford1500 GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/18/23 6:53 p.m.

There is an excercise/war game going on right now in the carolinas for special forces qualification. It occurs around and off-base so this might be part of it. Tinfoil hats are on aisle 3.

11GTCS
11GTCS SuperDork
9/18/23 6:58 p.m.
VolvoHeretic
VolvoHeretic GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/18/23 6:59 p.m.
codrus (Forum Supporter) said:
Keith Tanner said:
Toyman! said:

It has been stated that the autopilot was set when he ejected. It may have stabilized itself and just kept going. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened. 

Well yikes. It's just turned into a cruise missile. Or Skynet has its first F35.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornfield_Bomber

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
9/18/23 7:17 p.m.

"Uncle Jed! Lookit his here big black doorstop I found in the back 40!"

"Wellll, doggies, Jethro, drag that up by the barn.  It"ll make a fine chicken coop." 

 

I know it's not geographically correct, but what the hell.

VolvoHeretic
VolvoHeretic GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/18/23 9:27 p.m.

F-35 Debris Found In Field After Frantic Search For Missing Jet

"The debris was discovered two hours northeast of Joint Base Charleston...

Two hours driving? Flying?

jmabarone
jmabarone Reader
9/19/23 8:00 a.m.
Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/19/23 8:02 a.m.

In reply to VolvoHeretic :

Driving. And actually more like 1 to 1.5 hours. It's about 60 miles as the F35 flies. The yellow pin is where the pilot landed and the plane came down near Indiantown, SC. 

STM317
STM317 PowerDork
9/19/23 8:06 a.m.
VolvoHeretic said:

F-35 Debris Found In Field After Frantic Search For Missing Jet

"The debris was discovered two hours northeast of Joint Base Charleston...

Two hours driving? Flying?

 

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/19/23 8:14 a.m.

In reply to STM317 :

That's two hours northeast of Beaufort Naval Air Station. Joint Base Charleston is in Charleston. About 1.5 hours northeast of Beaufort. 

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/19/23 8:15 a.m.
STM317 said:
VolvoHeretic said:

F-35 Debris Found In Field After Frantic Search For Missing Jet

"The debris was discovered two hours northeast of Joint Base Charleston...

Two hours driving? Flying?

 

That ain't joint base charleston...

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/19/23 9:30 a.m.

The big question is who is driving. If it was teenage me that's a big difference from after church on Sunday Granny.  

STM317
STM317 PowerDork
9/19/23 10:40 a.m.

In reply to wvumtnbkr :

Apologies as I haven't been following closely, but the article that VolvoHeretic linked says:

"The Joint Strike Fighter that went down was assigned to Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron 501, based at Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort, which is situated around 50 miles to the southwest of Joint Base Charleston."

That's why I selected that location.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
9/19/23 7:08 p.m.

I heard from alleged reliable sources that the transponder was turned off, not malfunctioning.

X ponder tells who and what you are.

VolvoHeretic
VolvoHeretic GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/19/23 10:26 p.m.

Yahoo.com: “He Just Lost It In The Weather” – Audio From F-35 Crash Response Emerges

Maybe relating to the pilot losing sight of the jet after he ejected.

Several more articles follow the above news article.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
9/19/23 11:48 p.m.

I have a feeling that pilot won't be flying any more.  

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle GRM+ Memberand UberDork
9/20/23 6:26 a.m.

This place probably. Kinda "near" Charleston for news purposes I guess.

Cousin_Eddie (Forum Supporter)
Cousin_Eddie (Forum Supporter) Dork
9/20/23 7:44 a.m.
codrus (Forum Supporter) said:
Keith Tanner said:
Toyman! said:

It has been stated that the autopilot was set when he ejected. It may have stabilized itself and just kept going. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened. 

Well yikes. It's just turned into a cruise missile. Or Skynet has its first F35.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornfield_Bomber

That was a good read. I can just picture the local yokel Sheriff standing there for an hour and a half waiting for the thing to run out of fuel.

XLR99 (Forum Supporter)
XLR99 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/20/23 7:49 a.m.

Regarding the transponder - anyone with mil aviation or ATC knowledge able to comment? It seems that every time I see fighters around, other than the Thunderbirds on ferry flights, there is no track on FlightAware.

Do they normally just keep xpdr in standby unless they want to be seen, or is there a secure setting? One would think they'd want the benefit of ADS-B out to avoid GA traffic

02Pilot
02Pilot PowerDork
9/20/23 8:44 a.m.

In reply to XLR99 (Forum Supporter) :

I don't know what the protocol is in uncontrolled airspace, but a lot of flight time is spent in MOAs. When those are active (or a sector or block is active), which ATC would be aware of, civilian traffic would not be an issue. From what I see on the sectional chart, the Gamecock MOA is probably where they were heading.

Edit: There is a 28-day TFR in Gamecock C around the crash site.

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