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racerdave600
racerdave600 Dork
4/15/14 5:14 p.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: The advantage of the smoothbore musket was that it could be reloaded in a fraction of the time it took to reload a rifle. The U.S. Civil War 1 changed that with the introduction of the mini ball, which loaded into a rifle as fast as a musket, then expanded the base when fired to engage the rifling to impart spin for accuracy.

Not to get too far off topic, but this reminded me of a gun I used to own. It was a Civil War Cavalry 72 caliber carbine that had a detachable stock and would turn into a pistol. Having fired it as a rifle, and given the kick, I couldn't imagine using it without the stock. Cool and insane all at the same time.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
4/15/14 5:27 p.m.

In reply to Kenny_McCormic:

Shhh!! You might want to check for black choppers.

Sultan
Sultan Dork
4/15/14 5:28 p.m.

I don't feel like we need guns. The government will protect us.

I'm not sure who will protect us from the government. I haven't figured out that part yet.......End of troll......

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
4/15/14 5:29 p.m.
wbjones wrote:
slantvaliant wrote:
Dr. Hess wrote: The U.S. Civil War 1 changed that with the introduction of the mini ball ...
You mean the Second American Revolution?
the northern war of aggression

But who started it ?

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
4/15/14 5:29 p.m.
racerdave600 wrote:
Dr. Hess wrote: The advantage of the smoothbore musket was that it could be reloaded in a fraction of the time it took to reload a rifle. The U.S. Civil War 1 changed that with the introduction of the mini ball, which loaded into a rifle as fast as a musket, then expanded the base when fired to engage the rifling to impart spin for accuracy.
Not to get too far off topic, but this reminded me of a gun I used to own. It was a Civil War Cavalry 72 caliber carbine that had a detachable stock and would turn into a pistol. Having fired it as a rifle, and given the kick, I couldn't imagine using it without the stock. Cool and insane all at the same time.

According to NY's new law it would have to be registered. A pistol grip makes it a dangerous assault type weapon.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
4/15/14 5:31 p.m.

Have you seen the NY-Legal AR?

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
4/15/14 5:50 p.m.
N Sperlo wrote: Have you seen the NY-Legal AR?

That's just terrifying. Please save me.

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
4/15/14 5:51 p.m.
mistanfo wrote:
wbjones wrote:
slantvaliant wrote:
Dr. Hess wrote: The U.S. Civil War 1 changed that with the introduction of the mini ball ...
You mean the Second American Revolution?
the northern war of aggression
Disagreement amongst Her Majesties former holdings.

The American conflict for states rights and business freedom.

bikerbenz
bikerbenz Reader
4/15/14 6:00 p.m.

In reply to Toyman01: weapons of mass production?

codrus
codrus GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
4/15/14 6:04 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: In reply to Toyman01: How do you even get to that fridge for beer?
That's the back.

It seems to be missing the beer!

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
4/15/14 6:06 p.m.

In reply to codrus: >>> It seems to be missing the beer!

There is that empty shelf... so I figure the picture was taken Sunday evening.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper PowerDork
4/15/14 6:22 p.m.
slantvaliant wrote:
Dr. Hess wrote: The U.S. Civil War 1 changed that with the introduction of the mini ball ...
You mean the Second American Revolution?

That was a third. War of 1812 was the second.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic UberDork
4/15/14 6:41 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote: In reply to Kenny_McCormic: Shhh!! You might want to check for black choppers.

I've done worse in terms of questionable yet totally legal activities with no visits from the feds.

LopRacer
LopRacer HalfDork
4/15/14 6:53 p.m.
aircooled wrote:
mistanfo wrote:
wbjones wrote:
slantvaliant wrote:
Dr. Hess wrote: The U.S. Civil War 1 changed that with the introduction of the mini ball ...
You mean the Second American Revolution?
the northern war of aggression
Disagreement amongst Her Majesties former holdings.
The American conflict for states rights and business freedom.

The recent unpleasantness.

Strizzo
Strizzo UberDork
4/15/14 6:57 p.m.
Kenny_McCormic wrote: In reply to Toyman01: I've constructed a (legal) functional firearm with nothing beyond a hand drill.

There was a thread on one of the ak forums where a guy built most of an an ak out of an old wooden handled shovel.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
4/15/14 6:59 p.m.
codrus wrote:
Toyman01 wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: In reply to Toyman01: How do you even get to that fridge for beer?
That's the back.
It seems to be missing the beer!

As hard as it is to imagine, I don't drink beer. Can't stand the stuff, actually. Liquor was always my thing, but I pretty much quit drinking all together 8-10 years ago. An occasional glass of wine is it for me.

Then I quit most soft drinks so the cooler is unplugged and standing empty. I'm considering turning it into a smoker.

SnowMongoose
SnowMongoose HalfDork
4/15/14 7:00 p.m.
Bumboclaat wrote:

FUAC?

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
4/15/14 7:03 p.m.

In reply to SnowMongoose:

berkeley You Andrew Cuomo

neon4891
neon4891 UltimaDork
4/15/14 7:05 p.m.

I played it safe and removed the muzzle brake from my 10/22...

With out getting into the topic of small North Atlantic flat fish, "if" Cuomo loses re-election to an Anti-SAFE Act based candidate, How easily could the law be repealed?

crankwalk
crankwalk GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
4/15/14 7:17 p.m.
racerdave600 wrote:
Dr. Hess wrote: The advantage of the smoothbore musket was that it could be reloaded in a fraction of the time it took to reload a rifle. The U.S. Civil War 1 changed that with the introduction of the mini ball, which loaded into a rifle as fast as a musket, then expanded the base when fired to engage the rifling to impart spin for accuracy.
Not to get too far off topic, but this reminded me of a gun I used to own. It was a Civil War Cavalry 72 caliber carbine that had a detachable stock and would turn into a pistol. Having fired it as a rifle, and given the kick, I couldn't imagine using it without the stock. Cool and insane all at the same time.

One of the original SBRs. Didn't have a tax stamp with it either.

The0retical
The0retical HalfDork
4/16/14 12:21 p.m.
neon4891 wrote: I played it safe and removed the muzzle brake from my 10/22... With out getting into the topic of small North Atlantic flat fish, "if" Cuomo loses re-election to an Anti-SAFE Act based candidate, How easily could the law be repealed?

Not to be negative Nancy but even if it were repealed the database in its current form would never go away. They'll always know who the gun owners are.

Anyone who thinks registering legally obtained long guns should read up on what a waste of money and resources it was for Canada. That's one of the reasons why Canada got rid of it. I'm sure our Canadian posters could give more info.

The Forbes financial breakdown.

yamaha
yamaha UltimaDork
4/16/14 12:39 p.m.

In reply to neon4891:

The easier way to get rid of it is to actually win in court.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla PowerDork
4/16/14 12:44 p.m.
yamaha wrote: In reply to neon4891: The easier way to get rid of it is to actually win in court.

but that would require judges that believe in upholding the constitution.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/16/14 12:57 p.m.
The0retical wrote: Not to be negative Nancy but even if it were repealed the database in its current form would never go away. They'll always know who the gun owners are.

Who needs a special, separate gun database with the NSA's capabilities? It even catches guns that people don't register.

yamaha
yamaha UltimaDork
4/16/14 12:59 p.m.

In reply to Bobzilla:

I contemplated adding "But the courts even have their own agenda" to the end of that, but chose restraint as that would surely get someones manties in a wad on here.

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