Guys,
My buddy Bob hasn't had much luck in the job market. We worked together at Mustangs Unlimited in the R&D department, and before that he worked for a LONG time at Automobile Atlanta selling Porsche parts. I know Duke just vacated a job here, along with a few other people. All I came up with was a tractor supply company in need of a copy writer, so I passed that on. If anyone knows of a parts related job in Atlanta, let me know. Bob is a great guy but I think he's getting passed over due to this age (he's in his 50s). I'm trying to find him a gig here at AutoTrader.com or maybe Manheim, but any other ideas are welcome. I know not every automotive-type company is easy to find online or on the SEMA/MEMA site.
I think the number one auto job in Atlanta is "Craigslist car salesman of awesome cars everybody north of Cobb County wants".
It wasn't Duke, it was me. Tell Bob I say hello!
Autotrader is probably the best place for him. That place rocks.
That said, I had to move out of Atlanta to get a job that I liked. He knows Porsche pretty well, and I know PCNA is expanding their staff to fit the new headquarters. It's worth his time to send in a resume. I know a few people down there, and he has my number if he needs a reference.
slefain
SuperDork
1/7/13 11:01 a.m.
Maroon92 wrote:
It wasn't Duke, it was me. Tell Bob I say hello!
Autotrader is probably the best place for him. That place rocks.
That said, I had to move out of Atlanta to get a job that I liked. He knows Porsche pretty well, and I know PCNA is expanding their staff to fit the new headquarters. It's worth his time to send in a resume. I know a few people down there, and he has my number if he needs a reference.
I just sent Bob a list of stuff I found, as well as beating the bushes with a few emails to people I know. What blows is that Bob is a great worker, but he's in his early 50s. I guarantee he's getting passed up for jobs because of his age, which although illegal, is almost impossible to prove.
which, i just find totally repugnant, this off the table age discrimination.
lots of people this age are looking to set down their final career roots, why pass these people up when they are potentially a source of major stability?
As one of these old farts myself, I discovered the reason for the off the table age discrimination is twofold: young kids work cheaper and they are less likely to have big health insurance claims that run the rates up. Of the two, the second one is the biggie; all it takes is one $500,000 claim to make group rates skyrocket. That doesn't make it right but that's what happens.
It's easier for an old coot to get a commission based job, that takes #1 off the table since if the employee doesn't turn he won't earn. With enough experience, that can tip the scales in their favor.
M3Loco
Reader
1/7/13 5:28 p.m.
OP, you're at Autotrader? Sweet.. I start Manheim next week. What do you do for AT?
M3Loco wrote:
OP, you're at Autotrader? Sweet.. I start Manheim next week. What do you do for AT?
I'm the Editor for AutoTrader Classics. Fun job, I get paid to go to car shows.
M3Loco
Reader
1/8/13 10:45 a.m.
slefain wrote:
M3Loco wrote:
OP, you're at Autotrader? Sweet.. I start Manheim next week. What do you do for AT?
I'm the Editor for AutoTrader Classics. Fun job, I get paid to go to car shows.
Nice, I'll keep in touch and maybe pay you a visit.
In reply to Curmudgeon:
i dunno, man. i still just dont see the logic. the stability offered by a qualified older employee just sounds much more useful than the erratic case of someone hired just for young.
especially if they're not a smoker. ;p there goes more than half the health cost right there, along with productivity
That's not how I see it either but no kidding health insurance costs do enter into it. All it takes is one big cancer claim to FUBAR things for everyone else in the group. It can change rates BIG time. That happened at the last reasonably sized dealership I worked at; one girl had a HUGE claim including chemo etc and the rates jumped so much they had t go find another company which put her under the whole preexisting waiting period thing etc. Thankfully her treatment was completed before the change of companies, in fact the management were rumored to have held off on changing until it was done.
THIS IS NOT A FLOUNDER
I have no idea if the new health care legislation addresses that and I won't speculate.
Curmudgeon wrote:
As one of these old farts myself, I discovered the reason for the off the table age discrimination is twofold: young kids work cheaper and they are less likely to have big health insurance claims that run the rates up. Of the two, the second one is the biggie; all it takes is one $500,000 claim to make group rates skyrocket. That doesn't make it right but that's what happens.
It's easier for an old coot to get a commission based job, that takes #1 off the table since if the employee doesn't turn he won't earn. With enough experience, that can tip the scales in their favor.
Well, at least now I know why I've only had two call-backs and one interview in the last year and a half. It's discouraging to even think about a commission job, I hate trying to sell things. Maybe I'll end up a repo man or something.
"You work on commission, that's better than getting paid!"
-Bud
I guess I'll go catch up on the gun threads now..
slefain
SuperDork
1/8/13 12:24 p.m.
Ditch the politics please? Take it somewhere else and don't get my thread locked.
slefain wrote:
.... Bob is a great guy but I think he's getting passed over due to this age (he's in his 50s). ...
-_-
sorry, thought it was relevant to the discussion, identifying potential hurdles to help overcome them somehow.
madmallard wrote:
slefain wrote:
.... Bob is a great guy but I think he's getting passed over due to this age (he's in his 50s). ...
-_-
sorry, thought it was relevant to the discussion, identifying potential hurdles to help overcome them somehow.
And I as well. I didn't think I was blaming anyone, just discussing the existing situation. Good luck to your buddy slefain, I can certainly appreciate his frustration.
friedgreencorrado wrote:
madmallard wrote:
slefain wrote:
.... Bob is a great guy but I think he's getting passed over due to this age (he's in his 50s). ...
-_-
sorry, thought it was relevant to the discussion, identifying potential hurdles to help overcome them somehow.
And I as well. I didn't think I was blaming anyone, just discussing the existing situation. Good luck to your buddy slefain, I can certainly appreciate his frustration.
I was more concerned about the health care legislation comment and age discrimination discussion taking over my attempt to help a down and out friend. I'm not upset, just not wanting to see it end up under the patio.
slefain wrote:
Guys,
My buddy Bob hasn't had much luck in the job market. We worked together at Mustangs Unlimited in the R&D department, and before that he worked for a LONG time at Automobile Atlanta selling Porsche parts. I know Duke just vacated a job here, along with a few other people. All I came up with was a tractor supply company in need of a copy writer, so I passed that on. If anyone knows of a parts related job in Atlanta, let me know. Bob is a great guy but I think he's getting passed over due to this age (he's in his 50s). I'm trying to find him a gig here at AutoTrader.com or maybe Manheim, but any other ideas are welcome. I know not every automotive-type company is easy to find online or on the SEMA/MEMA site.
Auto Atlanta? That poor bastard. They are one of the worst in the Porsche parts world and have a horrible reputation, not something I'd promote on a resume to someone in the Porsche community. Just FYI.
Good luck on the job search, age shouldn't factor into it, especially the job types he's interested in as experience is much more valuable in those instances.
slefain wrote:
I was more concerned about the health care legislation comment and age discrimination discussion taking over my attempt to help a down and out friend. I'm not upset, just not wanting to see it end up under the patio.
Good point. How does he feel about big-box stores? Up here in Acworth, it looks like Advance might be hiring. I know it would be a step down, but it might get some cash in his pocket.
http://www.snagajob.com/jobs?s=georgia&l=acworth&c=advance+auto+parts+inc.
turboswede wrote:
slefain wrote:
Guys,
My buddy Bob hasn't had much luck in the job market. We worked together at Mustangs Unlimited in the R&D department, and before that he worked for a LONG time at Automobile Atlanta selling Porsche parts. I know Duke just vacated a job here, along with a few other people. All I came up with was a tractor supply company in need of a copy writer, so I passed that on. If anyone knows of a parts related job in Atlanta, let me know. Bob is a great guy but I think he's getting passed over due to this age (he's in his 50s). I'm trying to find him a gig here at AutoTrader.com or maybe Manheim, but any other ideas are welcome. I know not every automotive-type company is easy to find online or on the SEMA/MEMA site.
Auto Atlanta? That poor bastard. They are one of the worst in the Porsche parts world and have a horrible reputation, not something I'd promote on a resume to someone in the Porsche community. Just FYI.
Good luck on the job search, age shouldn't factor into it, especially the job types he's interested in as experience is much more valuable in those instances.
Hehe. He handles the Auto Atlanta part of his work history the same way I handle the Mustangs Unlimited part of mine. When you mention the company name, take a step back out of punching range. It does at least show that he was in the industry and most people don't fault him for how the company was run.
I was at AA for 2 years. It actually helped me move forward in the Porsche community. People like to hear that I left because of "a moral difference of opinion in how the company was being run."
I learned a ton while I was there, and it helped me grow as a person, but I wouldn't go back for a million dollars a month.
I learned how NOT to run a business, and I learned how to deal with irrational management and a negative environment.
Terrible place to work. Would not recommend.