HiTempguy wrote:Ojala wrote: Wait a minute.....is that in real money like US Dollars or is that in Canadian bongobucks or whatever is used up there?Last time I checked, our fake dollar was worth more than your real dollar.Edit- Oh, and did I mention there is an impending labour shortage? We could probably due with more 'mericans and less Filipinos
Whats the neon and sign industry look like?
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: I'll take a job where you work, please and thank you.
If you're a maintenance electrician, call me. We've been short at least 2 electricians since I transferred to this plant - a year ago. Of the 30 interviewed last month, 4 were offered the job, and 3 turned it down. Starting pay is about $70k.
I know that positive is red, and negative is black. I can has $70k plz?
I don't make that working at the brewery, that's for sure.
Am I pissed at my parents and their peers for doing stuff like that? You betcha. Am I gonna rub it in their faces when they run out of Social Security and need me to fund the nursing home? You betcha! (But I will, of course, they're my freaking parents.)
HiTempguy wrote:92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: I'll take a job where you work, please and thank you.Come on up. You can earn $100k per year if you so desire with nothing more than a grade 12 education. You can earn over $20/h, working monday through friday 8-5 with benefits and vacation, also with only a grade 12 education and never have to leave town. It isn't so bad, it's just that some people have ridiculous expectations when it comes to how much junior people should get paid vs what was earned "back in the day". Instead of working with my body, I work with my brain now, and my waistline proves it!
Im still trying to get my grade 10!
Millienials (aged 19-37) outnumber boomers by 10%. In the last election, they gave the Democrats a 22 percentage point advantage.
Considering government spending is at an all time high and a significant contributor to the current economic woes, I think it could be debated who's screwing who.
But perhaps we would accomplish a lot more if we didn't try to point the finger and started accepting responsibility and working together for the betterment of our country.
Frankly, blaming the Boomers is a load of crap.
Blaming anyone is a load of crap. Let's stop the blaming and start the fixing.
It's highly recommended by plan managers when participants reach 50+ they start paring down from aggressive funds to moderate return at mid to late fifties and within a few years of retirement to low risk like an index fund.
With over 77 million baby boomers at or near retirement age and 60 plus percent of those in some sort of retirement plan it's no wonder this is happening.... but, like plan managers and the market never saw this coming? ... aw, c'mon man.
I know quite a few folks who were planning to retire until the '08 fiasco but they were still mostly in the aggressive growth funds and got hammered, now some are still working because of necessity.
And as to who really screwed who, follow the trail back and take a look at who caused the '08 cluster berkeley.
+1 for what SVreX said: Frankly, blaming the Boomers is a load of crap.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:AngryCorvair wrote:What the hell is steampunk anyways?oldsaw wrote: Boomers bought in to the crap that was fed them. What are those "youngsters" buying in to today?twitter and facebook and steampunk?
ThePhranc wrote:HiTempguy wrote:Whats the neon and sign industry look like?Ojala wrote: Wait a minute.....is that in real money like US Dollars or is that in Canadian bongobucks or whatever is used up there?Last time I checked, our fake dollar was worth more than your real dollar.
Bright?
Taiden wrote: Blaming anyone is a load of crap. Let's stop the blaming and start the fixing.
Quotably quoted my friend.
I can remember as a kid when my brother and I would fight, we occasionally would break something. The one time it happened on my dad's watch, he basically came down on us like the hammer of Thor and said, "I don't give a BERKELEY who's fault it was, berkeleying fix it before I get angry!"
I'd love to see that applied to Washington.
Racer1ab wrote:Taiden wrote: Blaming anyone is a load of crap. Let's stop the blaming and start the fixing.Quotably quoted my friend. I can remember as a kid when my brother and I would fight, we occasionally would break something. The one time it happened on my dad's watch, he basically came down on us like the hammer of Thor and said, "I don't give a BERKELEY who's fault it was, berkeleying fix it before I get angry!" I'd love to see that applied to Washington.
11/06/2012..............
Fit_Is_Slo wrote:
Frig off, Julian. Go do your book learnin' or somethin'.
Steampunk reminds me of Jules Verne: all of his creations were from that era. Steampunk and Baby Boomers reminds me of the old 20,000 Leauges Under the Sea ride at Disney.
You rode around underwater and looked at fish. How cool was that? I think that ride is why I enjoyed the Myst game series so much.
MitchellC wrote:ThePhranc wrote: Whats the neon and sign industry look like?Bright?
Touche.
In reply to 1988RedT2:
They don't call us Gen X folks the Beaten Generation for no reason. There are too few of us to make any kind of waves, and were sandwiched in between the Boomers and the Millennials.
My goal is debt free (including the house) in 5 years, then aggressive saving. I'm betting that stockpiling canned goods and 7.62 ammo won't hurt either.
oldsaw wrote:Racer1ab wrote:11/06/2012..............Taiden wrote: Blaming anyone is a load of crap. Let's stop the blaming and start the fixing.Quotably quoted my friend. I can remember as a kid when my brother and I would fight, we occasionally would break something. The one time it happened on my dad's watch, he basically came down on us like the hammer of Thor and said, "I don't give a BERKELEY who's fault it was, berkeleying fix it before I get angry!" I'd love to see that applied to Washington.
I'll believe that when me E36 M3 turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet. It will be the same old bullE36 M3 if anyone running for either party wins.
Brett_Murphy wrote: In reply to 1988RedT2: They don't call us Gen X folks the Beaten Generation for no reason. There are too few of us to make any kind of waves, and were sandwiched in between the Boomers and the Millennials. My goal is debt free (including the house) in 5 years, then aggressive saving. I'm betting that stockpiling canned goods and 7.62 ammo won't hurt either.
I'm with ya, brotha... I should be debt-free (including the house) in 2 years. Then start with agressive savings and building up a "retirement career"... like maybe wood working.
That said, I'm 50:50 on the baby boomer issue... my mother is no drain at all... my father, on the other hand... not so sure about him...
Brett_Murphy wrote: My goal is debt free (including the house) in 5 years, then aggressive saving. I'm betting that stockpiling canned goods and 7.62 ammo won't hurt either.
i think "762X39" would be a great personalized license plate
I like 7.62x51, but I'll stockpile both types.
I think every generation likes the next is going to destroy the world. All this doom and gloom about how the world is going to end because the new generation is so dumb that goes on on this board gets a bit old. People have survived so many plagues, wars and financial crisises (spelling?). That isn't going change.
From the outside it always seems so simple. Make a list of everything that sucks right now, and come up with a plan to fix it. It's all the corruption at the top that makes things stagnant. So much cause and effect due to all the lobbying and whatnot. I feel as if you can't make any changes in the federal govt without thousands of people trying to get their agenda filled one way or the other.
Our country is spending too much, spend less or raise taxes
The war on drugs is a huge money sink that only increases profit margins for criminals, lets rethink our approach. Control and taxation wont solve problems, but it COULD be the lesser of two evils
Lower/middle class can't really afford higher taxes, so tax the rich if taxes must be raised
Doctors spend E36 M3loads of money on tests and malpractice insurance covering their asses in case of lawsuit, perhaps the legal system needs a little revising. (I like how in some other countries, the loser of the legal battle is required to pay the winners legal fees. This might help)
Many people don't have healthcare, if we can lower the cost of healthcare (see above), it MIGHT become available to more people
I'm not going to get on the topic of war, suffice to say that I am far more interested in protecting our borders, than "helping" other countries.
I am mostly against censorship, but I do not understand why it's okay to advertise prescription drugs on television. Obviously they are running the ads because they increase sales. The only way the sale can be made is if the patient goes to the doctor and asks for the 'purple pill.' So in a way, patients are prescribing their own medication because of these ads. Can you say, "really freaking dangerous?" And instead of focusing on curing illness, the pharmaceutical companies are focused on making the 'new miracle drug' that they can sell during the 6 o clock news. I know everyone's trying to make a buck, but seriously. This is so wrong. And while we're at it, let's kill the restaurant ads. I don't need 38 big macs shoved down my throat every night via the television, and no one else does either.
Perhaps I am far too idealistic.
Perhaps I'm on a roll with my rants recently.
everyone likes to say the baby boomers were the worst generation ever- well, maybe the baby boomers wouldn't say that- but really they are a product of their upbringing.. they were raised the way they were by the so-called "greatest generation" that lived thru the great depression and WW2..
Who's "everyone"?
I've never heard that. Ever.
Don't forget... they laid the groundwork for whatever those following them may accomplish.
The title and premise of this thread exhibits an enormous amount of ignorance. Ignorance of finance, consumption, and the contributions of what may be the greatest generation.
First off money... The Boomers have not depleted your 401K. Your 401K (and theirs) is down because you failed to make wise investments. The fact that the market may remain down should be an opportunity. Their continued selling will stabilize the market for a decade or more, and offer lower prices and therefore value to those who purchase and stay in longer (like the OP). It should mean far greater returns for you. Stability is ALWAYS a good thing for those who know how to use it. So, learn a little about investing in options and short sales. If you know the market will be down, you should know how to invest. If you loose money over the long haul, it is no one's fault but your own. Don't blame the Boomers.
Secondly... The assertion that Boomers have consumed more services than they've paid for- prove it. Sounds like crap to me.
Thirdly... "Screwed us". How arrogant. The majority of posters on this forum may very well be Boomers, so who is "us"?
Fourth... show a little gratitude. Without the Boomers, you wouldn't even have the Internet to b1tch on.
It was Boomers who stepped up to say black church bombings and separate drinking fountains were wrong.
It was Boomers who fought against sexual inequality and advanced opportunities for women in the workplace.
It was Boomers who strived for an inclusive society that would recognize the contributions of all its members.
Boomers advanced freedom of speech, refused to tolerate environmental violations, challenged racial and sexual discrimination, rejected religious intolerance and defied racial and sexual taboos. They set the stage for the information age, and collectively amassed the greatest wealth of any generation.
Many members of generations following the Boomers seem to be exceptionally good at taking them for granted and whining.
fasted58 wrote: It's highly recommended by plan managers when participants reach 50+ they start paring down from aggressive funds to moderate return at mid to late fifties and within a few years of retirement to low risk like an index fund. With over 77 million baby boomers at or near retirement age and 60 plus percent of those in some sort of retirement plan it's no wonder this is happening.... but, like plan managers and the market never saw this coming? ... aw, c'mon man. I know quite a few folks who were planning to retire until the '08 fiasco but they were still mostly in the aggressive growth funds and got hammered, now some are still working because of necessity.
even those who had moved their money to the "low risk" index funds lost lots of value. i know of a few people who should have retired by now but their plans changed with the double whammy of the stock market and real estate bubbles bursting.
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