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slefain
slefain UberDork
11/13/15 4:19 p.m.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203

Possibly 40 dead. Three separate shootouts and a hostage situation.

Here's the live thread on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/live/vwwmdb26t78v

WOW Really Paul?
WOW Really Paul? MegaDork
11/13/15 4:27 p.m.

The Hoff
The Hoff UltraDork
11/13/15 4:28 p.m.

A good friend of mine just left Paris yesterday. Good timing.

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
11/13/15 5:17 p.m.

I'm curious if this was preplanned or a response to the drone strike taking out "Jihad John"

WOW Really Paul?
WOW Really Paul? MegaDork
11/13/15 5:26 p.m.

In reply to captdownshift:

It sounds like multiple coordinated attacks from what the radio flash said.....so most likely either pre planned or activated sleeper cells.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
11/13/15 5:29 p.m.
WOW Really Paul? wrote: In reply to captdownshift: It sounds like multiple coordinated attacks from what the radio flash said.....so most likely either pre planned or activated sleeper cells.

That was my first thought as well. Unfortunately my spidey sense is telling me this is just the start to something. I hope I'm wrong.

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 UltraDork
11/13/15 5:41 p.m.

So I just heard on ABC the concert hall had and American band on its schedule.

The Eagles

The guy reporting called them a "death metal California rock band".

Rob_Mopar
Rob_Mopar UltraDork
11/13/15 6:00 p.m.

In reply to moparman76_69:

There's a band called "The Eagles of Death Metal." They were playing in Paris, Not Don Henley's band.

BlueInGreen44
BlueInGreen44 Dork
11/13/15 6:08 p.m.

Apparently the report is that police just took the concert hall.

My mom just referred to this as "France's 9/11"

racerdave600
racerdave600 SuperDork
11/13/15 6:15 p.m.

I just read over 100 dead, but unconfirmed. Very sad.

Sine_Qua_Non
Sine_Qua_Non Dork
11/13/15 6:16 p.m.

Looks like the ordeal is over.

SilverFleet
SilverFleet UltraDork
11/13/15 6:17 p.m.

Yeah, not The Eagles, but The Eagles of Death Metal.

Regardless, there are reports of casualties in the concert hall, but they have locked it down just minutes ago, while killing two of the assailants. The band itself escaped, but other people in the venue have been killed or hurt. And that's just one of the attack sites.

This reminds me of the madness that was the week of the Boston Marathon bombings in a way. I was at a concert venue in town seeing a similar band (Fu Manchu) while right up the street from the killing of Officer Sean Collier on the MIT campus. We actually drove right through MIT on the way to the show. Obviously, the Paris situation is more widespread, which is even scarier.

No one should have to deal with this kind of violence or live in fear. I also get the feeling like more of this is on the way. I sure hope I am wrong.

t25torx
t25torx Dork
11/13/15 6:30 p.m.

Live feed on reddit https://www.reddit.com/live/vwwmdb26t78v

Over 140 dead. wtf no one claiming responsibility that I have heard.

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 UltraDork
11/13/15 6:39 p.m.
Rob_Mopar wrote: In reply to moparman76_69: There's a band called "The Eagles of Death Metal." They were playing in Paris, Not Don Henley's band.

Yeah the guy reporting it paused between Eagles and Death Metal and didn't say of, lol.

84FSP
84FSP HalfDork
11/13/15 8:04 p.m.

This would seem like a response to the drone killing of Jihadi John earlier this morning. With death tolls rising it's hard not to agree with BlueInGreen44's comment on being France's 9/11.

WOW Really Paul?
WOW Really Paul? MegaDork
11/13/15 8:08 p.m.

In reply to 84FSP:

Yep, so has IS territory been turned to glass yet?

06HHR
06HHR HalfDork
11/13/15 8:11 p.m.

Reports that the Charles DeGalle (sic) is steaming to the Med for air support. The prime minster has pledged to fight those responsible, without saying who exactly. French are jumping into the Middle East pool with both feet. Things just got really interesting..

Gary
Gary Dork
11/13/15 8:23 p.m.

Hard to say if this was a direct result of our taking out JJ. It seems to be too well-coordinated to be an ad hoc retaliation. Wouldn't have been enough time to coordinate this kind of attack. But as the poster above said, things just got really interesting. And serious too, I'd say. So far, the experts aren't sure if it's ISIS or Al Qaida responsible.

84FSP
84FSP HalfDork
11/13/15 8:26 p.m.

Just such a sad devolution of the world order. While attempting to be a realist in all things I just keep hoping the world won't continue it's progress down this dark path.

johndej
johndej Reader
11/13/15 8:35 p.m.

yeah, they are saying that at the concert there may have been suicide bombers who entered the crowd, then folks with Kalashnikovs at the emergency exits. Up to 6 sites where gunfire has been exchanged.

Headed to other parts of Europe next week so this will be interesting indeed. Boarders are closed in France right now.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
11/13/15 8:40 p.m.
Gary wrote: Hard to say if this was a direct result of our taking out JJ. It seems to be too well-coordinated to be an ad hoc retaliation. Wouldn't have been enough time to coordinate this kind of attack. But as the poster above said, things just got really interesting. And serious too, I'd say. So far, the experts aren't sure if it's ISIS or Al Qaida responsible.

I agree, this would take a degree of planning and organization that makes it unlikely to be a response to Jihadi Johnny. Besides which, JJ's death was a combined British/American operation, so why attack France in retaliation?

Anyhow, just an awful situation. As I posted on Facebook, these jihadi pieces of E36 M3 want to drag the world back into the middle ages. They won't succeed, but that doesn't mean they aren't taking a lot of innocent lives as they try to.

petegossett
petegossett GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/13/15 8:54 p.m.

FYI I saw a post on the Eagles of Death Metal Facebook page that all members are safe, but there seems to be some uncertainty about members of the crew.

EvanR
EvanR Dork
11/13/15 9:23 p.m.
WOW Really Paul? wrote: In reply to 84FSP: Yep, so has IS territory been turned to glass yet?

What is IS territory? Even if you killed every man, woman, and child in "IS territory", what would that do to stop the operatives who are already spread across the globe? Nothing. In fact, it would just tick them off more.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/13/15 9:47 p.m.

No one should have to live through this E36 M3.

rob_lewis
rob_lewis GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/13/15 9:56 p.m.
Tom_Spangler wrote:
Gary wrote: Hard to say if this was a direct result of our taking out JJ. It seems to be too well-coordinated to be an ad hoc retaliation. Wouldn't have been enough time to coordinate this kind of attack. But as the poster above said, things just got really interesting. And serious too, I'd say. So far, the experts aren't sure if it's ISIS or Al Qaida responsible.
I agree, this would take a degree of planning and organization that makes it unlikely to be a response to Jihadi Johnny. Besides which, JJ's death was a combined British/American operation, so why attack France in retaliation? Anyhow, just an awful situation. As I posted on Facebook, these jihadi pieces of E36 M3 want to drag the world back into the middle ages. They won't succeed, but that doesn't mean they aren't taking a lot of innocent lives as they try to.

I heard one of the talking heads say tonight (so, take that "source" with a large grain of salt), that it could be a series of sleeper cells. If that was the case, I would assume that they could be "activated" fairly quickly. Plus, given that it is several spots of smaller havoc (vs. something like 9/11) would indicate that it was done quickly.

But, I agree with the question of why the French instead of Britain or the U.S. Perhaps because France is the closest "western" country to attack?

-Rob

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