My Z3 was pretty good too with snow tires.
mad_machine wrote: surprised nobody said saab. Built in the land of the Midnight sun, I tried hard to get mine out of shape last winter, and even on worn out all seasons, the car just went
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griffin729 wrote: Three winters that I lived in Detroit, I drove for my personal car a 97 Cavalier Z24 until I upgraded to the Impreza, and for work I drove mostly Lincoln Town Cars. No-seasons on 'em all. No problem with any of the cars. Nothing stopped the Cav. The Subie is a TON more fun to drive in the slick. As for the Town Car, if you know how to drive it just keeps going too. There is a special kind of fun working as a chauffeur second shift, and heading back to the office at 2am in a 10 passenger stretch with 6 inches of snow on the ground. Empty roads + drifting a limo = win Back to the original question, something already rusted and the drive configuration you're most comfortable with and good tires is the way to go.
Last year I put Pirelli Scorpions on the Town Car for the first time, was driving north on 75 before 7 am every day, on ice, passing EVERYTHING on the road without any issue. Nothing gives the E36 M3s to a Subara WRX driver than to be passed by a Town Car going 25 mph faster than he could manage.
Yuck yuck
In reference to the SAAB comments. A few years ago we had a bad snow around Valintines Day. The guy across the street from me had a 4 WD Explorer with crappy tires on it. he had to go to the store for diapers or something. He gets stuck getting out of his driveway, so I get my keys and back the 9-3 with Blizzaks out into the street and tell him to hop in. The look on his face was priceless. Though he still has not gotten snows for either of there vehicles.
My brother lived in Vail for a while. He always said that cars with good snow tires got you where you were going, tall SUV's and all-seasons got you in a ditch.
Last winter I had a crap-tastic dodge spirit 4cyl auto. Foot pedal parking brake too. It was understeer city and an all around crap car for the past few winters until I did something about the tires. I'm to cheep to put snow tires on a $200 car, but I did get a set of newish teeny all seasons off a wrecked toyota echo. The move from 205 50 15's to 165 65 14's transformed that car. Stable and unstoppable in the snow.
So my opinion: Something crappy that's cheap (like mentioned crapoleer/corsica/spirit/tempo etc) and then reduce the foot print by half. My teeny tires were worn out by the spring, but I sold it to the junkyard before I had to worry about it.
My C4 with 295's on the back would get stuck in a level parking lot and a "dusting" of snow. Not going sideways or doing donuts, but stuck; not moving. Tires are KEY, BUT you can substitute small contact patch (cuts through the snow/ice) for quality.
I did buy a jeep for this winter, but I don't plan on being confined to these so called "roads."
EastCoastMojo wrote: We had several inches of snow a few years back and we lived in a neighborhood with one hell of a steep hill at that time. I was driving a Chevy Cavalier with plain ol' all seasons on it and I was dreading that hill all the way home. I get there and I see all manner of truucks, SUVs and cars littering all sides of the road, as well as several still on their way up. I decide to try it since I will have plenty of company if I don't make it. Slowly and surely I climb. And climb. And climb. About halfway up a guy in a big 4 x 4 who had been spinning his tires the whole time I could see him shakes his fist at me in frustration, although he smiled afterward. I crept all the way up at just a little over idle and never slipped once. There was a small group of people at the top just watching and they all cheered when I made it up. It was then that I realized that there were NO other tracks in the snow at the top of the hill LOL. Yay for the Cavalier, awesome all conditions powerhouse that it was.
Several years ago Columbia got a really nasty snow/ice storm and I had my Pinto powered Spitfire. It got ice all inside the fenders adding a couple hundred pounds to it and had all season radials on it; I dropped them to about 20 PSI and went EVERYWHERE. I passed Blazers and Broncos etc, climbed hills like they were nothing. One memorable incident: I passed a Blazer with 5 or 6 guys in it, they were all pointing and laughing at the little weirdo car. Then the traffic light ahead changed and I came to a nice controlled stop. The Blazer slid through the light into the intersection and tapped another car. I rolled on by waving. Even better, I was the one with a blonde in the car. Of course, the Spitfire got even with me for running it all over the place in the snow; turned out there was a little water in the fuel line at the rear which froze solid in the middle of the night. So the next morning I had to jack the car up, remove the metal line and take it into my apartment so I could run hot water over it. The blonde's parents weren't real happy.
When it gets bad here we hop in the truck. It's tall. It's an open diff'd 2wd. It's a V8 with torque. All the worst things one can have, no? yet with the simple additing of 150-180lbs in the bed it's never been stuck. 12" of blowinf drifting snow on an inch of ice couldn't stop it. I think the "driver mod" is hte best thing for snow. You could give an idiot a tracked snow vehicle and they'd get it stuck. Know what you have. Know what it does. Drive it accordingly.
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