mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/11/13 2:54 p.m.

I am officially a sailor again. Owner of a 1965 SeaSprite 23. A nice little full keeled sailboat that saw duty up on Lake Champlain. $2000 seems me with a good solid boat with decent rigging sails, and a trailer. The Trailer alone is worth the price I paid.

Some pics, but not mine, from the CL listing.

AquaHusky
AquaHusky Reader
5/11/13 3:00 p.m.

Nice find!

alex
alex UberDork
5/11/13 3:47 p.m.

I'm so glad I'm not close enough to the water to have another expensive hobby.

bludroptop
bludroptop SuperDork
5/11/13 4:39 p.m.

That's an Alberg design if I'm not mistaken. A sweet hull.

Looking forward to updates.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy UberDork
5/11/13 4:43 p.m.

Is this the first day of the happiest 2 days of boat ownership? JK.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid UberDork
5/11/13 8:39 p.m.

I love sailing. My buddies dad had a 39' sailboat they had on Lake Michigan. They would let me take a turn sailing the boat, I wish they still had it. I had a great time.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 PowerDork
5/11/13 10:29 p.m.

In picture 1 & 2 there is no bow pulpit like shown in pic 3.
Here is Lake Erie, the lack of bow pulpit would keep it from getting a PHRF cert for racing. (That's the local, stupid controversy.)

Lake Champlain...a fresh water boat. That's what you want. Good find.

Ahoy

Flight Service
Flight Service UltimaDork
5/11/13 11:46 p.m.

nice

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/12/13 2:07 a.m.
bludroptop wrote: That's an Alberg design if I'm not mistaken. A sweet hull. Looking forward to updates.

It is an Alberg, one of his first. The Sprite was designed in 58 before Alberg went on to design many a Cape Dory and a host of other sailboats, some of which carry his name.

JohnRW1621 wrote: In picture 1 & 2 there is no bow pulpit like shown in pic 3. Here is Lake Erie, the lack of bow pulpit would keep it from getting a PHRF cert for racing. (That's the local, stupid controversy.) Lake Champlain...a fresh water boat. That's what you want. Good find. Ahoy

Yes, the Pulpet was added after the first pics were taken, just as the boat now has lifelines strung between that are also not shown.

What I find surprising, is the friendliness and amount of help I have been offered from the sailing community and from owners club for these boats in particular. Reminds me of around here

neon4891
neon4891 UltimaDork
5/12/13 9:48 a.m.

Very nice. I've never sailed my self, but I would like to give it a try.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/12/13 11:24 a.m.

Boats can be fairly expensive, especially if you are afraid of doing the maintance yourself. All the wood or "bright work" needs to be done yearly.. sometimes twice in the tropics. Bottom paint can usually go two years or sometimes more depending on where the boat spends it time in water. Colder water usually means cleaner bottoms.

Sails get stretched, rot, and can tear. power Boats suffer from cooling issues and the fact that you usually running the engine WOT most of the time... and they are not exactly "efficent" when you start thinking in GPH instead of MPG

Right now, I know my boat needs a working Jib. It has a Gennacker and a Drifter, both of which are good for light air. around here we get a lot of heavy air.. so that will be a boat (break out another thousand) buck.

Because my boat came with a trailer, I do not have to worry about storage or blocking fees, but I will still get hit with hauling it out of the water, usually a few bucks a foot. Winter storage could run up to a grand, but at least this I can keep in my driveway

mazdeuce
mazdeuce Dork
5/12/13 11:26 a.m.

I love sailing, always have. That looks like a great boat. I often think that the only reason I autocross is because I don't live close enough to good water to justify a boat. Have fun.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 PowerDork
5/12/13 12:18 p.m.
mazdeuce wrote: I love sailing, always have. That looks like a great boat. I often think that the only reason I autocross is because I don't live close enough to good water to justify a boat. Have fun.

And the reason that I don't autocross any more is that I am out racing other people's boats.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/12/13 1:50 p.m.
JohnRW1621 wrote:
mazdeuce wrote: I love sailing, always have. That looks like a great boat. I often think that the only reason I autocross is because I don't live close enough to good water to justify a boat. Have fun.
And the reason that I don't autocross any more is that I am out racing other people's boats.

Now I am jealous. I am not good enough a sailor to race and I do not weigh enough to be railmeat

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 PowerDork
5/12/13 2:17 p.m.

Small guy? Want to race? Then you should take the self-test of entering The Bowman's Union

Lightweight railmeat is the best kind. You get asked to do races where there are strict, low, class crew weight limits.

Ask around where you keep your boat. I will bet there is racing every Weds night and I will bet that half the boats need additional crew. They certainly could make some room for a light weight guy.
You may think that they would not do you that favor of taking you along. Quite the opposite, they will be more than grateful that you asked and can be there.

Duke
Duke PowerDork
5/12/13 6:17 p.m.

Very nice little sailer! I grew up on the north end of the Chesapeake, and I really miss sailing some times. Just don't have time or space for another expensive hobby. I looked into rentals, but it was kind of a PITA and everybody required me to do their certification course first.

Mmadness
Mmadness Reader
5/12/13 7:37 p.m.

I've kept some pretty detailed records for my laser (sailboat) and between insurance, US sailing fees, registration, maintenance (usually just cleaning) and repairs (not really much, usually just odd things) it comes out to just over $200 per year. In terms of depreciation, I almost guarantee I could sell it for what I paid 3 years ago. Overall, there are sailboats for just about any budget. If you sail a boat that you can put on your roof, you can save yourself the hassle and expense of a trailer.

DrBoost
DrBoost PowerDork
5/12/13 7:43 p.m.

My uncle had a sail boat that he entered in the Det to Macinac race every year for decades. I went with him a few times for the return trip. It's an amazing feeling to cruise along knowing you're not using any energy you've purchased or had to store. Amazing.
When he passed I really thought about buying the boat. But my income can barely support one hobby.

Mmadness
Mmadness Reader
5/12/13 7:53 p.m.
DrBoost wrote: My uncle had a sail boat that he entered in the Det to Macinac race every year for decades. I went with him a few times for the return trip. It's an amazing feeling to cruise along knowing you're not using any energy you've purchased or had to store. Amazing. When he passed I really thought about buying the boat. But my income can barely support one hobby.

If you don't wan't to spend the money (or just don't wan't the hassle) of your own boat you could always crew. At least in the places I frequent, crew is looked upon more as a flagger than a co-driver in the sense that you are doing the skipper a favor rather than the other way around. If you joing a yacht, club they will usually give you free access to club boats. Some yacht are very reasonably priced and low key and some are more of an exclusive country club that offers sailing with prices to match.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/12/13 8:33 p.m.
Mmadness wrote: I've kept some pretty detailed records for my laser (sailboat) and between insurance, US sailing fees, registration, maintenance (usually just cleaning) and repairs (not really much, usually just odd things) it comes out to just over $200 per year. In terms of depreciation, I almost guarantee I could sell it for what I paid 3 years ago. Overall, there are sailboats for just about any budget. If you sail a boat that you can put on your roof, you can save yourself the hassle and expense of a trailer.

And a trailer is cheaper than storing at a marina.

Type Q
Type Q Dork
5/12/13 9:18 p.m.
JohnRW1621 wrote:

And the reason that I don't autocross any more is that I am out racing other people's boats.

My first thought when I saw the picture was, "That looks like Cedar Point!" Then I saw Sandusky in your profile and thought, "That must be Cedar Point." I haven't been there since I lived in Cleveland in '96.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/13/13 7:56 a.m.

Is there room for one of these?

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/13/13 8:48 a.m.

Do you know what happens to a displacement hull when you apply too much power? It displaces it's own weight in water and disappears beneath the waves

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