MadScientistMatt said:How did we manage to have this thread stay around for several days without the obvious suggestion?
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how batE36 M3 crazy this vehicle is? It really exists, and drives, and is not some CGI creation. I have no idea how anyone conceptualized and built something this amazingly cool. Yes it's ridiculous and over the top, but c'mon, look at it.
I kinda want my kids' first cars to understeer. Well, they should grip grip grip then understeer. OBD2 is great and I like ABS and airbags as well. Cheap replacement parts and simple repairs.
Really, an anti-GRM car. My teens probably won't drive a GRM feature car.
I drove a '62 Falcon in the early 90s and would have to call home with a borrowed cell phone to tell dad "the car died". He'd drive across Raleigh and blow out a clogged fuel filter just so I could go out or get to work. I love my boys but I don't want to have to do that. Accord, Camry, Altima with gears, Malibu, Taurus.
We'll have a father/son enthusiast car on jackstands but their personal cars should be known, boring tools.
Crxpilot said:I kinda want my kids' first cars to understeer. Well, they should grip grip grip then understeer. OBD2 is great and I like ABS and airbags as well. Cheap replacement parts and simple repairs.
Really, an anti-GRM car. My teens probably won't drive a GRM feature car.
I drove a '62 Falcon in the early 90s and would have to call home with a borrowed cell phone to tell dad "the car died". He'd drive across Raleigh and blow out a clogged fuel filter just so I could go out or get to work. I love my boys but I don't want to have to do that. Accord, Camry, Altima with gears, Malibu, Taurus.
We'll have a father/son enthusiast car on jackstands but their personal cars should be known, boring tools.
The easy button is to find something without a fuel filter that can be blown out...
When we were doing Miata salvage, almost every single one of them was hit in the front. One had hit a pole sideways (on the passenger's side, thankfully), but for a RWD car that's more prone to oversteer than the average econobox, they never hit anything going backwards.
FYI.
Everything understeers if you jam on the brakes in a panic and then try to turn.
daeman said:Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) said:Duke said:"Never get involved in a land war in Asia."
Never stick your hootus in "crazy"
When I nearly lost the tip of my finger I got told "never stick your finger somewhere you wouldn't stick your hootus"
Used to be a few US military guys stationed in Okinawa on rx7club because I guess street racing is big there. One of them told a story of a car with a big ball bearing turbo (4088?) with no air filter, and the turbo was just spinning and spinning after they shut the engine off, and one of the Japanese guys jokingly tried to stop the impeller with his finger.
They were cleaning chunks out of the intercooler. Oops.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:Everything understeers if you jam on the brakes in a panic and then try to turn.
As every autocrosser knows :) My point was that there may not be any reason to buy an understeering pig for a first car.
I'm not sure how long it was before I started driving a FWD car regularly. I think I'd been driving for at least 5 years. Most of that time was spent sideways in the snow.
In reply to Keith Tanner :
When I was getting my driver's license, my mom had a '93 Grand Am (3300/TH125, the tank of tanks) and my stepdad had a '76 Town and Country wagon. He was driving me somewhere in the winter in the Pontiac and commenting how front wheel drive made you a bad driver, you can't screw up on snow, as he stomped the throttle and swerved the steering around to zero effect.
So what he did was, he got me in the T&C and a big unplowed church parking lot, and told me to go driving up to speed and then try to avoid an imaginary obstacle. I figured that a decade spent living every waking moment on a bike or playing Hard Drivin' helped me with this 
He also taught me to look through the two or three cars ahead of you in traffic so you can see what is going on. This meshed well with my mountain biking "look far ahead" mentality, and is a lot of why I loathe SUVs and pickups: You can't see through them.
Got to play Hard Drivin' again at a retro arcade recently. It was still pretty sweet.
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