chandlerGTi wrote: Unless the CDL facility in Bradley (by OAK right?) has been revamped I'd go anywhere else. I stood there three hours, place was ridiculous.
Yes that's it. The next nearest CDL place is South Holland and that's a little over an hour away.
1slowcrx wrote: Commercial Trucking Insurance Underwriter checking in.... Vetting drivers and their licenses is one thing I do almost once an hour every work day. Class C, E, D licenses in almost 50 states will allow a person to drive any power unit/trailer combo up to 26,000lbs. The CDL version of these is only available in a handful of states and were created for the Taxi industry. CDL B will allow a person to drive a power unit over 26,000lbs and and trailer up to 10,000lbs. (think city bus, dump truck, $$$ RV, Garbage Truck, etc.) CDL A will allow a person to drive a power unit and trailer of any weight. (semi truck and trailer) - There are many endorsements available for haz mat/ oversize/over weight/ multiple trailers/ etc.
Well I need the one that's going to keep me cool with Johnny Law, that's what I'm trying to figure out.
This is what the the RV transport company that I'm looking at says for their requirement:
Valid Driver’s license: A Class A CDL is preferred, but an operator’s license to drive commercially (some states call it a chauffeur’s license) is acceptable.
In reply to SyntheticBlinkerFluid:
You are confusing 3 separate things.
1- Driving or towing an RV for personal use is different than driving commercially. If you are driving for profit, you are driving comercially.
2- CDL driving regulations are 1 thing...
3- ..the policies of a company you are driving for as a subcontractor is different.
The laws are probably less relevant than the actual policies of the company you will be driving for. The company will make sure you are legal, but they will also make sure you meet certain criteria for their insurance, their protection, etc..
Ask the company what they need.
1slowcrx wrote: Commercial Trucking Insurance Underwriter checking in.... Vetting drivers and their licenses is one thing I do almost once an hour every work day. Class C, E, D licenses in almost 50 states will allow a person to drive any power unit/trailer combo up to 26,000lbs. The CDL version of these is only available in a handful of states and were created for the Taxi industry. CDL B will allow a person to drive a power unit over 26,000lbs and and trailer up to 10,000lbs. (think city bus, dump truck, $$$ RV, Garbage Truck, etc.) CDL A will allow a person to drive a power unit and trailer of any weight. (semi truck and trailer) - There are many endorsements available for haz mat/ oversize/over weight/ multiple trailers/ etc.
My understanding is that the 10,000 lb trailer rule is for a tag trailer (bumper pull), and that the threshold is 15,000 lbs for a 5th wheel.
Please elaborate...
SVreX wrote: In reply to SyntheticBlinkerFluid: You are confusing 3 separate things. 1- Driving or towing an RV for personal use is different than driving commercially. If you are driving for profit, you are driving comercially. 2- CDL driving regulations are 1 thing... 3- ..the policies of a company you are driving for as a subcontractor is different. The laws are probably less relevant than the actual policies of the company you will be driving for. The company will make sure you are legal, but they will also make sure you meet certain criteria for their insurance, their protection, etc.. Ask the company what they need.
Yes I am completely aware that I am going to be transporting commercially, there is no confusion in that. In the State of Illinois, driving or pulling an RV for pleasure is completely exempt from CDLs, so if I thought that, I would have never created this thread.
I'm trying to find out if my Class D CDL is legal for this type of work or if I need a higher class. It could save me a trip to the DMV. The States reference to GVWR for the CDLs is what's confusing. If you read back through this thread almost every response is different. The SOS website is of no help. Neither are any of the articles I have found online in reference to this.
According to the company, they would prefer a Class A CDL, but will take an operators license to drive commercially, which is technically a Class D CDL, which is what I have.
I plan on contacting the company, but my issue is, if they ok my Class D, but by the chance I get pulled over, I don't want a hefty fine from the police because I don't have the right class of CDL for what I'm towing.
In reply to SyntheticBlinkerFluid:
I don't have an answer for your question, but I have had a business which did subcontract transport for larger brokers.
They are not going to approve you if it's illegal. Much too big a liability for them. They will serve as a very easy check and balance for this issue.
As you have noted, your question will give a wide range of responses from internet armchair lawyers. Your transport company will be a much more concrete answer. They know.
That's one of the good things about having a broker and/or dispatcher.
I would say those Il rules allow your Class D to drive the vehicle, but fail to define the towing limits (like they do for Class A and B). They would then default to the Fed guidelines, and manufacturer's towing guidelines.
Shorthand: F-350's are perfectly legal to tow with.
And yes, GVWR is the vehicle only. The trailer counts as a second vehicle. When towing, combined they are referred to as the GCWR (Gross Combined Weight Rating).
SVreX wrote:1slowcrx wrote: Commercial Trucking Insurance Underwriter checking in.... Vetting drivers and their licenses is one thing I do almost once an hour every work day. Class C, E, D licenses in almost 50 states will allow a person to drive any power unit/trailer combo up to 26,000lbs. The CDL version of these is only available in a handful of states and were created for the Taxi industry. CDL B will allow a person to drive a power unit over 26,000lbs and and trailer up to 10,000lbs. (think city bus, dump truck, $$$ RV, Garbage Truck, etc.) CDL A will allow a person to drive a power unit and trailer of any weight. (semi truck and trailer) - There are many endorsements available for haz mat/ oversize/over weight/ multiple trailers/ etc.My understanding is that the 10,000 lb trailer rule is for a tag trailer (bumper pull), and that the threshold is 15,000 lbs for a 5th wheel. Please elaborate...
In NC it's 10,000lbs no matter the attachment point. We follow this for insurance acceptability because we're domiciled as a NC Corporation. It's my understanding that some states do have an allowance for 5th wheel attachment to pull more weight. Since we're not enforcing the law, just insurance guidelines we stick to NC's 10k lbs across the board.
In reply to 1slowcrx:
Huh. Ok, I thought that was Federal.
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