Challenge-priced aircraft carrier

I'd have totally given them $.50

http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/not-a-floating-museum-but-razor-blades-forrestal-the-navys-first-supercarrier-goes-to-the-breakers-for-a-penny/

jg

Raft shanty town like L. Bob Rife!

Sheeeit, we can run the entire challenge on that pig. SCCA rules be damned!

mndsm wrote: Sheeeit, we can run the entire challenge on that pig. SCCA rules be damned!

I love you.

In reply to poopshovel:

makes it easy to dispose of the burnt carcasses

Don't transportation costs still count towards the challenge budget? Or were you planning on towing this home yourself?

Read the blurb, transport is included.

and this vehicle is proposed as the venue, not a competitor

Hah now I totally wanna set up a whole buncha buoys and um..... Seacross that sumbitch.

poopshovel wrote:

mndsm wrote: Sheeeit, we can run the entire challenge on that pig. SCCA rules be damned!

I love you.

+1

[edit: why didn't google buy it? They could have done all sorts of nefarious stuff with it.....]

I spent 6 months on that ship. My first sea deployment in a squadron. She was fast! but only in a straight line LOL! That flight deck would eat tires like crazy. The non-skid was brutal....until it had worn down some by mid cruise, then it was slippery as hell and still ate the crap out of the tires!

An "off" would be interesting....it's 65' from the flight deck to the water line....that's after you clear the cat walks and anything else in the way

JG Pasterjak wrote: I'd have totally given them $.50 http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/not-a-floating-museum-but-razor-blades-forrestal-the-navys-first-supercarrier-goes-to-the-breakers-for-a-penny/ jg

Yea, but that towing, dismantling and recycling requirement is a bugger. In all sincerity, I've seen companies driven into bankruptcy for making the mistake of dragging a carrier to their pier. Honestly, I wouldn't take it even if it came with a million dollar check.

aussiesmg wrote: Read the blurb, transport is included. and this vehicle is proposed as the venue, not a competitor

See, that's not how I read it. I read it as requiring the buyer to transport and dismantle the ship, but I admit it's not written all that clearly.

foxtrapper wrote:

JG Pasterjak wrote: I'd have totally given them $.50 http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/not-a-floating-museum-but-razor-blades-forrestal-the-navys-first-supercarrier-goes-to-the-breakers-for-a-penny/ jg

Yea, but that towing, dismantling and recycling requirement is a bugger. In all sincerity, I've seen companies driven into bankruptcy for making the mistake of dragging a carrier to their pier. Honestly, I wouldn't take it even if it came with a million dollar check.

Its not like they left any propulsion systems intact. 40K a day easy, just in fuel, to tug that thing to a yard where it can be broken down. The British spent something crazy advertizing the sale of the Invincible, for which they wanted the great sum of 200K. They ended up paying in the long run to drag it away.

those carriers are neat... i toured the Lexington when i was in Corpus Christi, TX 2 summers ago... we only had about an hour before it closed for the night, but it was pretty cool to walk around and check everything out.

mndsm wrote: Sheeeit, we can run the entire challenge on that pig. SCCA rules be damned!

The flight deck is about 300 feet short for drags.

Farewell and following seas ol girl. .

I noticed the Constellation was one of the next on the hit list. Some of my best memories were from that one...

Ninja edit: Would we have a rule book if the race were held in international waters?

wearymicrobe wrote:

foxtrapper wrote:

JG Pasterjak wrote: I'd have totally given them $.50 http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/not-a-floating-museum-but-razor-blades-forrestal-the-navys-first-supercarrier-goes-to-the-breakers-for-a-penny/ jg

Yea, but that towing, dismantling and recycling requirement is a bugger. In all sincerity, I've seen companies driven into bankruptcy for making the mistake of dragging a carrier to their pier. Honestly, I wouldn't take it even if it came with a million dollar check.

Its not like they left any propulsion systems intact. 40K a day easy, just in fuel, to tug that thing to a yard where it can be broken down. The British spent something crazy advertizing the sale of the Invincible, for which they wanted the great sum of 200K. They ended up paying in the long run to drag it away.

Actually, they tend to leave the boilers and engines in place. No reason to pull them. They are very unlikely operable of course.

The bigger bugago is things like the asbesos lagging on the pipes throughout the ship, the PCB hydraulic oil used in the elevators, etc.

They used to let some of the US yards scrap them, but EPA regulations made it all but impossible, or bankrupted the few that tried it. Then they were sending them off to India and the like. But global regulations have made that a no-go for US and most European ships now.

So, they sit somewhere and rust.

Permanently moor offshore someplace and make a house out of it?

SnowMongoose wrote: Raft shanty town like L. Bob Rife!

I hope the inhabitants will listen to Reason.

foxtrapper wrote:

JG Pasterjak wrote: I'd have totally given them $.50 http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/not-a-floating-museum-but-razor-blades-forrestal-the-navys-first-supercarrier-goes-to-the-breakers-for-a-penny/ jg

Yea, but that towing, dismantling and recycling requirement is a bugger. In all sincerity, I've seen companies driven into bankruptcy for making the mistake of dragging a carrier to their pier. Honestly, I wouldn't take it even if it came with a million dollar check.

During the tow from RI to Philly: "oops... storm hit us and it sank off the coast... oh well..."

Problem solved!

Ian F wrote:

foxtrapper wrote:

JG Pasterjak wrote: I'd have totally given them $.50 http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/not-a-floating-museum-but-razor-blades-forrestal-the-navys-first-supercarrier-goes-to-the-breakers-for-a-penny/ jg

Yea, but that towing, dismantling and recycling requirement is a bugger. In all sincerity, I've seen companies driven into bankruptcy for making the mistake of dragging a carrier to their pier. Honestly, I wouldn't take it even if it came with a million dollar check.

During the tow from RI to Philly: "oops... storm hit us and it sank off the coast... oh well..." Problem solved!

maybe it will get beached somewhere embarrassing.. like where all the multimillion dollar homes are

what was the one they sunk in the Gulf awhile back to make a home for fish ?

In reply to iceracer:

The Oriskany, a WW2-era Essex-class ship that also served in Vietnam.

When I was a kid, I got to tour the Independence, last of the Forrestal class, at North Island in San Diego. That's really all I've got that's relevant.

The somewhat ironic thing is this lump of "scrap" is still more capable than any other aircraft carrier that doesn't say "U S NAVY" on the fantail.

They should have just sold it to the Indians. They seem to be trying to build a navy for some stupid reason (maybe they just have SOOOO much money just laying around)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/16/india-aircraft-carrier-russia-rivalry-china

I am sure that will work out real great for them.