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SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid UltraDork
9/17/12 6:53 a.m.

This is in no way a political thread. I happened to come across this and I had absolutely no clue this was going on. I haven't heard it on the news at all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/17/world/asia/anti-japanese-protests-over-disputed-islands-continue-in-china.html

The only somewhat political thing I have to say, is that if the Chinese government were to do something physical about reclaiming these islands, I could see the U.S. having to step in to help defend Japan.

Here's some pics of the crazy protests that are going on:

http://imgur.com/a/Y7oIp

novaderrik
novaderrik SuperDork
9/17/12 7:05 a.m.

China is still kinda holding a grudge over what Japan was doing in the 1930's.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
9/17/12 7:07 a.m.

The Koreans are a bit peeved with them as well. It's not just the recent (1930's) stuff, it goes back hundreds of years.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade SuperDork
9/17/12 7:14 a.m.

Newsflash: White people didn't invent racism!

(I'll leave before the fish show up.)

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
9/17/12 7:29 a.m.

They've been at it for a while, there was another in 1894-1895.

http://www.history.co.uk/explore-history/ww2/sino-japanese-war.html

novaderrik
novaderrik SuperDork
9/17/12 7:30 a.m.
Curmudgeon wrote: The Koreans are a bit peeved with them as well. It's not just the recent (1930's) stuff, it goes back hundreds of years.

but it's the one that some living people can actually remember..

neon4891
neon4891 UltimaDork
9/17/12 7:37 a.m.

Nothing new.

racerfink
racerfink Dork
9/17/12 7:50 a.m.

The Japanese were absolutely BRUTAL to the Chinese in the Nanking Massacre.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
9/17/12 7:52 a.m.
DoctorBlade wrote: Newsflash: White people didn't invent racism! (I'll leave before the fish show up.)

You mean Nationalism? That race is actually a spec series :)

racerfink
racerfink Dork
9/17/12 7:57 a.m.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/17/12 8:05 a.m.

Newsflash: everyone on the planet hates someone, and is hated by someone.

slefain
slefain SuperDork
9/17/12 8:34 a.m.

Nanking was only part of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

Not exactly lunch time reading.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/17/12 8:55 a.m.

it goes back millenia. China has tried to invade Japan on several occasions (where do you think Kamikaze came from?) but were foiled by storms. Japan did invade China and Korea a few times.. once under the rule of am empress.

it's a very tangled web of hate and interdependence

yamaha
yamaha HalfDork
9/17/12 10:15 a.m.

Nothing new at all.....

aircooled
aircooled PowerDork
9/17/12 11:11 a.m.

SSDD

or

SSDC

yamaha
yamaha HalfDork
9/17/12 11:13 a.m.

Its all over the gangnam style video......

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/17/12 11:45 a.m.

Look up Unit 731 on youtube....

Yep, even though most of the countries in the Asia were populated from China/Mongolia, etc. They've all grown apart and well fought each other for various reasons and in-human treatment happens over and over on all sides of the conflicts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7yDOXGmtro

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
9/17/12 11:48 a.m.

People in that corner of the world (just like all the other corners) have been invading and killing each other for millenia. There's plenty of blame for all sides.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
9/17/12 12:03 p.m.
yamaha wrote: Its all over the gangnam style video......

ZOO
ZOO GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/17/12 12:04 p.m.

Isn't it nice to have such fabulous neighbours to the North?

JoeyM
JoeyM UltimaDork
9/17/12 12:04 p.m.
slefain wrote: Nanking was only part of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes Not exactly lunch time reading.

Exactly. They were brutal. From your link

according to historian Yuki Tanaka: "cannibalism was often a systematic activity conducted by whole squads and under the command of officers".[68] This frequently involved murder for the purpose of securing bodies. For example, an Indian POW, Havildar Changdi Ram, testified that: "[on November 12, 1944] the Kempeitai beheaded [an Allied] pilot. I saw this from behind a tree and watched some of the Japanese cut flesh from his arms, legs, hips, buttocks and carry it off to their quarters... They cut it [into] small pieces and fried it."[69] In some cases, flesh was cut from living people:

Another link, same topic http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/japanese-troops-ate-flesh-of-enemies-and-civilians-1539816.html

JAPANESE troops practised cannibalism on enemy soldiers and civilians in the last war, sometimes cutting flesh from living captives, according to documents discovered by a Japanese academic in Australia. In most cases the motive was apparently not shortage of food, but 'to consolidate the group feeling of the troops', said Toshiyuki Tanaka yesterday in a telephone interview from Melbourne.
93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
9/17/12 12:04 p.m.

rotard
rotard Dork
9/17/12 12:11 p.m.

I thought this was common knowledge. The Japanese have historically been VERY brutal. A lot of groups throughout history have been, but it's somewhat different when there are living people that experienced/remember it.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
9/17/12 12:14 p.m.
novaderrik wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote: The Koreans are a bit peeved with them as well. It's not just the recent (1930's) stuff, it goes back hundreds of years.
but it's the one that some living people can actually remember..

That's true, but it doesn't have to be anything recent. The Muslims and the Europeans are still pissed at each other about the Crusades. The British are still wound up about the Saracens. We won't even get into the religious turmoil in the Mideast by three different religions who claim the same deity but have squabbled about the details for 2,000 years.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
9/17/12 12:18 p.m.

My father was a school teacher. Retired 25+ years ago.

At that time, we hadn't all learned how to be PC.

He had a young Korean student in his class.

For some reason, there was a delegation of Asian educators taking a tour through the school. My Dad (within earshot of his student), said something like, What's with all the Chinese people walking the halls?" To which the student said, "They aren't Chinese, they are Japanese".

My Dad, (in his gloriously politically incorrect self) said, "Well, you know you really can't tell them apart."

To which his 10 year old student replied, "The hell I can't!"

My Dad learned his lesson. But yeah, there has been division for a very long time.

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