There's also oil involved.
http://www.eia.gov/emeu/cabs/East_China_Sea/Full.html
When I was doing my Quality visits in China and Japan, I found the Chinese to be very welcoming of the 6'5" white guy. They were eager to share and show me things. I felt like Mickey Mouse walking around Disney and they were the kids.
In Japan, the young people wanted to speak English to me, the older generation aggressively tried to ignore me. Except one very nice old man. When I was at Hajime Castle he walked up to me very slowly and asked, "are you American?" I said, "yes." He then asked if I had seen Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I told him no. He then said, "you are American, you must see and understand Hiroshima and Nagasaki." Very nice, very polite, but I got his point.
Chinese also don't like black people.
I think Japan was told the chinese bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.......instead of Chicken and Cow, which filled in for Dolphin and Whale...
spitfirebill wrote: Read up on Unit 731. It will explain a lot.
So the feelings toward the Japanese are not without some justification
In reply to Flight Service:
As I've understood it, and its never as well taught in history classes, in ww2, the japanese were probably worse than the nazi's........the whole holocaust thing kinda overshadowed those offenses though.
yamaha wrote: In reply to Flight Service: As I've understood it, and its never as well taught in history classes, in ww2, the japanese were probably worse than the nazi's........the whole holocaust thing kinda overshadowed those offenses though.
...and the apparent lack of documentation recovery.
Yep, the Japanese were let off the hook by the US in exchange for getting their knowledge of biological weapons.
Yes, the Japanese and the Chinese do (a lot of the time) dislike each other.
ZOO wrote: Isn't it nice to have such fabulous neighbours to the North?
You better keep thinking that, lest we burn the White House down again...
In reply to yamaha:
Don't forget about the Ruskies berking the Poles in the Katyn forest, oh and the Italians berking the Ethiopians and Slavs, and the PRC's berking over of the Kuomintang Chinese...
WWII was a much, much larger and nastier conflict than most US History classes like to acknowledge.
turboswede wrote: Yep, the Japanese were let off the hook by the US in exchange for getting their knowledge of biological weapons.
And medical research info (ie more like torture), a lot like the Nazi's.
I have heard that some US agency turned a blind eye to Mengele and let him get away.
Flight Service wrote:spitfirebill wrote: Read up on Unit 731. It will explain a lot.So the feelings toward the Japanese are not without some justification
No, but like others have said this goes back centuries.
In reply to Javelin:
Indeed it was.....and if you don't read more than what is taught, you'll think that everything is puppies and rainbows
It goes back to the very beginning of being Japanese.
The Chinese have hated the Japanese since the Japanese first migrated to their island from China. I'm wondering if they weren't expelled.
Dunno about the Japanese biowar stuff, but Wernher von Braun, father of the NASA programs which led to the Saturn boosters and ultimately the Apollo moon landings, was a Nazi and was in charge of the development of the V-2 rockets that Germany rained onto Britain during WWII. The US military grabbed him and brought him here, he spent the rest of his life living luxuriously.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun#Involvement_with_the_Nazi_regime
He was the highest profile Nazi but there were others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
pinchvalve wrote: Newsflash: everyone on the planet hates someone, and is hated by someone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUwbZ9AlSPI
Written and performed before PC made satire a crime...
I read a book in a cultures class in college, it was called "who hates who". Our government uses it to make sure they don't offend anyone accidentally.
Curmudgeon wrote: ...Wernher von Braun, father of the NASA programs which led to the Saturn boosters and ultimately the Apollo moon landings, was a Nazi and was in charge of the development of the V-2 rockets that Germany rained onto Britain during WWII...
I believe the primary reason he would be considered for prosecution was the use of slave labor in the production of the V2's (which he was in charge of). Von Braun claimed he only cooperated and helped the Nazi's because he was so obsessed with rockets and ultimately going into space and the moon and that was the only way to continue his work.
I believe his behavior tended to support this. He was responsible for taking almost all of the Nazi's rocket data secrets from Peenemunde (after being told to destroy them) and escaping with them to the western forces. This seems to indicate he had far greater allegiance to rockets then to the Nazis.
Basil Exposition wrote:pinchvalve wrote: Newsflash: everyone on the planet hates someone, and is hated by someone.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUwbZ9AlSPI Written and performed before PC made satire a crime...
Let me guess without looking: National Brotherhood Week by Tom Lehrer.
aircooled wrote:Curmudgeon wrote: ...Wernher von Braun, father of the NASA programs which led to the Saturn boosters and ultimately the Apollo moon landings, was a Nazi and was in charge of the development of the V-2 rockets that Germany rained onto Britain during WWII...I believe the primary reason he would be considered for prosecution was the use of slave labor in the production of the V2's (which he was in charge of). Von Braun claimed he only cooperated and helped the Nazi's because he was so obsessed with rockets and ultimately going into space and the moon and that was the only way to continue his work. I believe his behavior tended to support this. He was responsible for taking almost all of the Nazi's rocket data secrets from Peenemunde (after being told to destroy them) and escaping with them to the western forces. This seems to indicate he had far greater allegiance to rockets then to the Nazis.
True. It could also be argued that he told the story his captors wanted to hear. Had things gone the other way in WWII, who's to say he would not have lived out his days as a very high ranking Nazi watching his dreams being built by slaves?
carguy123 wrote: It goes back to the very beginning of being Japanese. The Chinese have hated the Japanese since the Japanese first migrated to their island from China. I'm wondering if they weren't expelled.
if you look at the migration.. they actually came down the Korean penninsula.
The other people that hate the chinese are the Ainu.. the idiginous people of japan. Before the forced breeding commenced, they were completely Occidental. Nobody knows how they got there or where they came from, but they had been there long before the people that became the Japanese came to the islands
As stated, no new flash. All of Asia has had a dislike for Japanese for centuries. What has been linked to in this thread is only the most recent, since we've been tracking. But it goes back centuries. In Korea, Admiral Yi who invented the Turtle Ship 500 years ago is still a national hero. Took many years in the U.S. for my Korean wife to get used to Japanese.
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