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93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
4/19/11 10:41 p.m.

Ok so I have both a British and US birth certificate. Does that make me a citizens of both countries?

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/19/11 10:46 p.m.

Uh-Oh, that's a large can of worms you're opening there...

"It depends", partially on where you were born and on the nationality of your parents.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
4/19/11 10:48 p.m.

I was born in the US. My dad was British at the time and my mom is American. My dad has since become a US citizen.

Strizzo
Strizzo SuperDork
4/19/11 10:58 p.m.

i "think" you are british citizen since your dad is/was british, and definitely are a US citizen since you were born in the US and your mom is an american.

NickF40
NickF40 GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/19/11 10:59 p.m.

your a British/American

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/19/11 11:02 p.m.

Did your dad retain his British Citizenship? Although I'm not sure if that matters at all if he was a British Citizen at the time of your birth.

The Brit certificate isn't by any chance a "consular certificate of birth abroad" or somesuch? Can't recall the exact title, it's something along these line and basically used to notify the UK authorities of the birth of a citizen abroad.

My (limited) understanding of these matters is that you probably have inherited British Citizenship from your father, but I don't know if there is a time limit on having to apply for a passport or similar.

You might get more information in the USA (sub)forums over at http://britishexpats.com/. They've got a real live British consul on there, plus they're very knowledgeable in most matters regarding UK citizens abroad. I got a lot of useful info on there when I was living in Britain (even though I'm German) and my wife and myself were working on getting me over here.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
4/19/11 11:03 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote: Ok so I have both a British and US birth certificate. Does that make me a citizens of both countries?

I think it means you're Kenyan

jg

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/19/11 11:04 p.m.

Donald T? Is that you?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
4/19/11 11:13 p.m.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110413182426AAM4u41

According to this. I am.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
4/19/11 11:14 p.m.

Ok now will be a dual citizen disqualify me from a security clearance?

RexSeven
RexSeven SuperDork
4/19/11 11:15 p.m.

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BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/19/11 11:21 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote: Ok now will be a dual citizen disqualify me from a security clearance?

I don't think so; I believe that in certain cases, immigrants into the US might have to rescind their foreign citizenship after taking US citizenship to get certain types of jobs or security clearances, but that applies to immigrants and you're a natural born US citizen.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/19/11 11:22 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110413182426AAM4u41 According to this. I am.

Ah yes, there was some strangeness in that law, I just couldn't remember what it was exactly.

You know that this means that you could move over to basically any EU country once you get your UK passport and live there for a while if you fancy that?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
4/19/11 11:35 p.m.
BoxheadTim wrote:
93EXCivic wrote: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110413182426AAM4u41 According to this. I am.
Ah yes, there was some strangeness in that law, I just couldn't remember what it was exactly. You know that this means that you could move over to basically any EU country once you get your UK passport and live there for a while if you fancy that?

Actually rereading that it says before 1983. I was born in 1988 so I am back to square one.

cwh
cwh SuperDork
4/19/11 11:35 p.m.

My wife's son's father is Caymanian. The son was able to get a Cayman passport and work papers without problems when he wanted to go there to work. Daddy was from a very powerful family, the Ebanks clan, so that helped the paperwork go through. The son can now travel to, work, stay, play, in any Commonwealth country. Kind of neat. Dual passports do get looked at thoroughly, though.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
4/19/11 11:40 p.m.

Who would I call to figure this out?

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/19/11 11:41 p.m.

In reply to 93EXCivic:

I think the change in law was that before 1983 only the father to pass on the British citizenship.

Seriously, get yourself over to britishexpats as I suggested earlier, you should be able to pick up enough info over the to figure out what applies or not. I get enough of a headache trying to figure out German citizenship law and am only familir in passing with UK citizenship laws.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/19/11 11:43 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote: Who would I call to figure this out?

Most of the info should be here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law#From_1983

After reading that, maybe call the UK embassy or your nearest consulate.

Alternatively, sign up to the forum I mentioned, there's a member on there called "British Consul" or similar, PM him or just ask the same questions there.

turbojunker
turbojunker HalfDork
4/19/11 11:48 p.m.
BoxheadTim wrote: I get enough of a headache trying to figure out German citizenship law

I've been researching it a bit and it confuses me too.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
4/19/11 11:49 p.m.

According to what I have read on britishexpats, I am.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/19/11 11:54 p.m.

Yeah, combined with the info in the Wikipedia link above, I'd expect that outcome...

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/19/11 11:54 p.m.
turbojunker wrote:
BoxheadTim wrote: I get enough of a headache trying to figure out German citizenship law
I've been researching it a bit and it confuses me too.

Probably depends a little what you're researching it for, some of it is straightforward if you have the paperwork.

turbojunker
turbojunker HalfDork
4/20/11 12:01 a.m.

Admittedly I haven't spent a lot of time on it, but I've been trying to see if my German born mother was a US citizen or not when I was born. I can't ask her or her sister, since they have both passed away.

Autolex
Autolex HalfDork
4/20/11 8:36 a.m.
93EXCivic wrote: Ok now will be a dual citizen disqualify me from a security clearance?

as long as you disclose it, and the other country is friendly, you'll be fine.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant Dork
4/20/11 11:33 a.m.

Are the Brits considered citizens or subjects?

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