Nice freshly paved stretch of asphalt they just did a block from my house, glassy smooth. I know what you are thinking, that sounds just fine.
Thing is, the ONLY nice stretch of street within 5 miles of my house is what they repaved. Every other road has potholes and bad patches, they resurface the pristine stretch
Who lives on that stretch of road?? County Supervisor? Head of the Highway Dept.? One of their girlfriends?
Inquiring minds want to know
That E36 M3 happens all the time here. Or, lately my biggest complaint, they'll take the only good and smooth road and cover it with tar and chips, ignoring the minefield roads and the fact the first week it's like driving in snow until all the loose gravelv winds up in the ditch.
In reply to RevRico :
They were doing the Blue Ridge Parkway through NC when we were up there a couple of months ago. The motorcycle crowd was not happy. It was pretty slick in the Suburban. Made me real glad I left the G35 at home.
Is there a list of upcoming road works in your area? Maybe for logistical reasons that's where they decided to start a certain repaving project?
I don't know just throwing out ideas. I know OKC is in the midst of a MASSIVE street resurfacing campaign at the moment. Something like $250 million dollars was approved for repaving all over the city and they released a huge document detailing all the areas that are going to be resurfaced.
Warranty repair for a road that degraded more than it should've in one winter?
CJ said:Who lives on that stretch of road?? County Supervisor? Head of the Highway Dept.? One of their girlfriends?
This.
I used to work for a big civil engineering / architecture firm. My boss hired a tame state representative to help us get government projects.
I don't think the guy ever did one bit of good from a business standpoint, but within 2 months of his starting work with us, he got the half-mile of perpetually third-world paving in front of our office building taken care of.
Road repaved is not new at all, but as I say, it was in the best shape of any road within 5 miles of my house, zero potholes, not a single patch. It is a block away and I have to drive past 3-4 good sized potholes to get to it.
Around here, they work on all the roads at once, but they mostly just halfass patch the potholes with temporary fixes that disintegrate almost immediately, and yet it still takes them twice as long as it was supposed to.
Pretty frustrating. They re paved a few roads near my apartment within the last year or 2. Only to have some pipes burst and have to tear it all up again. They have it torn up at the intersection leaving our place right now and it's incredibly frustrating waiting for a pilot car just to leave your neighborhood
slowbird said:Around here, they work on all the roads at once, but they mostly just halfass patch the potholes with temporary fixes that disintegrate almost immediately, and yet it still takes them twice as long as it was supposed to.
OMBG, DelDOT has all the main routes around my county torn up. At the same time.
I live in a college town. There are 2 main routes through it, 1 west bound and 2 blocks away, 1 that goes both ways. Due to terrain, these are the only reasonable routes across town's east/west axis. The one-way route is literally the Main Street of the town, and is in the middle of a comprehensive, 18-month tear out and replace. They are digging it out to subgrade, at least 24" down, and building it back up from scratch.
That leaves the parallel street carrying approximately double its normal traffic load. It fails already under normal circumstances, with major backups on the best of days.
So they decided that was a perfect time to do a mill-and-repave on this only functioning east-west route across town.
Starting THE SAME WEEK that students came back for fall, approximately doubling the local population.
It's like they're literally trying to berk things up as badly as they can.
Duke said:It's like they're literally trying to berk things up as badly as they can.
Do you have a referendum coming up on funding for the DOT? You may not be wrong.
Toyman01 said:Duke said:It's like they're literally trying to berk things up as badly as they can.
Do you have a referendum coming up on funding for the DOT? You may not be wrong.
We don't get to vote directly on stuff like that.
The vehicle services part of DelDOT is on point, but the roads and planning part is just insanely bad and bureaucratic.
Their road designs are usually stupid, their long-term planning is completely out of touch with reality, and they have waaaay too much authority over the site development process.
If you're developing anything larger than an individual house, DelDOT gets review and input authority over your project.
It can take 2 months to get a letter out of DelDOT saying they are not interested in reviewing your project - and you can't proceed with further development approval processes until you get that letter. Bob help you if they actually review your project and thenmake you pay for installing a turn lane somewhere a quarter mile away from your site because they've decided your project is the straw that will break the camel's back.
Around me in the Lehigh Valley and down into Bucks county for the last 15 years or so they have been doing what looks at first like a wonderful job on all of the two lane roads, state or county numbered, but always under PennDOT direction. Then you get to drive on them in rain or snow and realize that they have eliminated all of the crown, and created lots of new skating rinks. These jobs would be great in the desert, not around here.
In reply to TurnerX19 :
I'm north of the Lehigh Valley (though I work in it).
Monroe county's favorite thing to do is repave so it's fantastic for two or three weeks, then the berkers come though to tar and chip it.
chaparral said:Warranty repair for a road that degraded more than it should've in one winter?
This is in Sacramento, the Snow Miser never comes to town. The Heat Miser however, lives here a few months every year.
the town north of me has both main North and South routes torn up for repaving AND both of the main East and West routes too. This does two things, it makes it near impossible to get into Atlantic City as they control three of the five routes onto the island and it diverts all the traffic onto their side streets... which look like a simulated lunar surface. I don't like negotiating the potholes in my Disco, let alone the Abarth
There can be a big difference between paving jobs being done by the county, and paving jobs being done by the contractor who won the contract to do all the paving work for the county. The latter has oversight and finish requirements and is held to a fairly high standard or they have to do it again. The former is being done by guys who don't have anything else to do and there's no oversight so there's no quality control. You can always tell who did a patch around here.
As for why this was done - ask the county. It's more fun to bitch about it, but if you really want to know then you ask the people that make the decisions. There are reasons for these decisions. You'd be surprised.
Where I live in upstate NY the town and county roads are in better shape than the state roads.
they just put up signs, "Rough Road".
The city puts all kinds of barriers when thy make a pavement cut, the state put a, that's one, traffic cone.
NYS rt.9 north just south of Pottersville .
Mr Tanner, I am confident that the county where you reside is far more responsive to inquiries than where I do. Most likely reason they are doing the work is because October is right around the corner.
Oh, and I just got my CARB approved downpipe from y'all today, almost too pretty to install.
It's responsive if you know who to call! It helps that I live with someone who can tell me who's responsible for roads. But every county has that guy, you just have to dig him (or her) out. If you never ask, how do you know they're not responsive?
In reply to The0retical :
They pave in Monroe? Not on 209 in Marshall’s Creek!
oh, I have asked
I'd just like them to paint the lanes, turn markers etc. even if they never touch the surface. For all the mouth breathing professionals taking the same suicide inducing route to work for ten years straight sure they know if there are two or three lanes if their lane is about to become a turn only in 100 ft around the bend. berkeley you northern Virginia and Mary Land you ain't any better. Potholes I just accept.
Also why are there no lanes coming out of the toll booths? Is it the start of LeMans or some goofy wacky use your soul sucking Utility Vehicle to bully others race to the lane markings? 
In reply to nutherjrfan :
I'm surprised - Maryland usually takes spectacular care of their roads.
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