I've been to this spot. It's beautiful. There are signs that say, "Don't go in the ice caves" everywhere..
people continually want to enter the caves...
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/0707/Washington-ice-cave-collapse-The-dangers-of-frozen-spelunking
So.. Don't go in the ice caves, take pictures from afar...
You could say they put him glasses on ice
Also double bonus points for posting the news story from a source that likely doesn't believe in global warming. Hey maybe in 3 days it'll warm up enough that he walks out
mtn
MegaDork
7/7/15 11:54 a.m.
captdownshift wrote:
Also double bonus points for posting the news story from a source that likely doesn't believe in global warming. Hey maybe in 3 days it'll warm up enough that he walks out
CSM probably doesn't believe in global warming, you are correct. But they definitely believe in Climate change. The operative word in their name is "Science".
captdownshift wrote:
Also double bonus points for posting the news story from a source that likely doesn't believe in global warming. Hey maybe in 3 days it'll warm up enough that he walks out
please educate yourself on the CSM. One of the best and cleanest news sources out there.
Darwin is collecting bodies left and right
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-man-shoots-off-firework-top-head-dies-32231780
A 22-year-old man who was drinking and celebrating the Fourth of July tried to launch a firework off the top of his head, killing him instantly, authorities said Sunday.
In reply to bgkast:
I am confused on how you instantly die. It also said that there was nothing left of him...
How does that happen? It is just a mortor in a tube, right. Is the force really that strong to just pulverize your head from them shooting off? Seems strange...
Fueled by Caffeine wrote:
captdownshift wrote:
Also double bonus points for posting the news story from a source that likely doesn't believe in global warming. Hey maybe in 3 days it'll warm up enough that he walks out
please educate yourself on the CSM. One of the best and cleanest news sources out there.
Come on now, it has Christian in it so it has to suck...

“Chloe Jakubowski, who told the Seattle Times she drove with three friends about 15 miles to a pay phone to call emergency services.”
I haven’t seen a payphone in years, I'm calling BS on Chloe's story.
RX Reven' wrote:
Fueled by Caffeine wrote:
captdownshift wrote:
Also double bonus points for posting the news story from a source that likely doesn't believe in global warming. Hey maybe in 3 days it'll warm up enough that he walks out
please educate yourself on the CSM. One of the best and cleanest news sources out there.
Come on now, it has Christian in it so it has to suck...
“Chloe Jakubowski, who told the Seattle Times she drove with three friends about 15 miles to a pay phone to call emergency services.”
I haven’t seen a payphone in years, I'm calling BS on Chloe's story.
I'd buy it. There is no cellphone service for 30 minutes around there.
In reply to wvumtnbkr:
From what I read yesterday it sounded like the force that should have shot the mortar up shot the tube down into his noggin and broke his skull. Stupid physics
That was teh only possible thing I could think of too. However, how much force does it take to throw a .5# weight 100 feet in the air. I wouldn't of thought it was enough to immediately kill you.
Maybe I will go do the maths.
wvumtnbkr wrote:
That was teh only possible thing I could think of too. However, how much force does it take to throw a .5# weight 100 feet in the air. I wouldn't of thought it was enough to immediately kill you.
Maybe I will go do the maths.
Well, force = mass times acceleration and since we don’t know what the acceleration period was, we can’t determine the exact force. However, assuming zero drag, you’d need an exit velocity of 80 fps to reach 100’ so let's say ~85 fps to account for drag.
I can't solve it without the acceleration period.
However, if you think it out like a half pound weight falling from 100 feet, I still don't see it "exploding" your head.
Maybe it just went cablooey and didn't try to launch.
Either way, idiot.
The lifting charge used in the mortars is pretty substantial. It doesn't surprise me a bit that it killed him instantly.
Years ago I was setting off some and the guy helping me loaded one upside-down. The lift charge blew the mortar tube apart pretty dramatically. 
They pack quite a wallop when the explode too.
yamaha
MegaDork
7/7/15 8:31 p.m.
In reply to Fueled by Caffeine:
The only question is, did Darwin actually win? He only wins if idiots remove themselves from the genepool prior to reproduction.
In reply to bgkast:
Did you catch the article about that dipE36 M3's mother wanting fireworks banned in Maine due to her offspring's drunken stupidity? 
In reply to wvumtnbkr:
I read somewhere that he placed the mortar tube on his head and the mortar did not launch but exploded in the tube. That's like putting a live hand grenade on your head. BOOM
In reply to yamaha:
Maybe they could compromise and require some kind of fireworks helmet:
http://theweek.com/speedreads/564981/mom-wants-tougher-fireworks-laws-after-son-sets-explosive-head-dies
wvumtnbkr wrote:
I can't solve it without the acceleration period.
However, if you think it out like a half pound weight falling from 100 feet, I still don't see it "exploding" your head.
Maybe it just went cablooey and didn't try to launch.
Either way, idiot.
the acceleration period is defined by the length of the tube right? much like a gun? so, how long does it take to go from 0 to 85 fps if you only have 1 foot to do it in?
How much does a pool ball weigh? I'd HATE to get hit with one of those from 100 ft.
This has to be my favorite Darwin award winner. Best comment I read on another article was "That guy simultaneously raised the IQ levels of these states by leaving one and entering the other (Missouri and Texas)."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/04/us/texas-alligator-attack/
a bigger mortar puts out a pretty healthy shockwave when it launches: there is definitely some force behind them. i can see how it could cave in the stupid head of a stupid drunk person if launched from the top of said stupid head...
that story reminded me of the stupid guy from Fargo a couple of years ago that blew his stupid head off when he looked down a mortar tube to see why it didn't launch...
yamaha
MegaDork
7/8/15 1:04 p.m.
In reply to novaderrik:
Dude about 30min north of me did that this 4th.....unfortunately at 41, he probably reproduced. 
DirtyBird222 wrote:
This has to be my favorite Darwin award winner. Best comment I read on another article was "That guy simultaneously raised the IQ levels of these states by leaving one and entering the other (Missouri and Texas)."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/04/us/texas-alligator-attack/
In his defense the sign is poorly written and implies the alligators are stationary and not too dangerous. Two exclamation points changing the sign to "NO SWIMMING! ALLIGATORS!" and this tragedy could have been avoided.
