mtn wrote:PHeller wrote: It's the farmer and their early rising that screws us all over.No, it isn't. The farmers will farm according to the sun, not some arbitrary number.
Great, that means they don't get to vote in my time change scheme. Early risers...
Wahhh.
Try working 12hr shifts, rotating between days and nights, and routinely staying up 24-36 hours at a time.
One hour time change??? You girls need to take off your skirts, grow a mustache and harden the berkeley up.
It took me a very long time to understand DST, because we don't use it here in Saskatchewan either. The first time someone told me it was to give more sunshine later in the day, I thought, "Ok, that's a pretty good idea." Then I realised it was in the summer...where we already have 16 or more hours of sun.
Alberta uses it. I went to a IHRA event there one July. Their night of fire is fireworks after Saturday final qualifying. At 11:00pm, the sun was just setting...
I say ditch it, or put DST on in the winter. We are always getting up in the dark, anyway, so maybe we could get some sun on the way home from work.
mtn wrote:PHeller wrote: It's the farmer and their early rising that screws us all over.No, it isn't. The farmers will farm according to the sun, not some arbitrary number.
Exactly. Cows can't tell time with a clock, either.
PHeller wrote: Being a resident of Arizona, ya'll are crazy. Yea it sucks switching the clocks around, but you actually get to enjoy your summer evenings getting dark at 8:45. We Arizonians have sundown an hour earlier than the rest of the world during the summer. In the winter, it flips, and we've got a whole extra 45 minutes of sunlight after work. Woop-de-doo I propose we change the entire nation's clocks to mimic working hours and activity time after work. That means yes, darkness in the morning. Sunrise at 8am (when most of us start work) and sunlight until 9pm. It's the farmer and their early rising that screws us all over.
The latest I've ever started work was 7 AM Most places I've worked were before that. An 8 AM start time would feel like cheating 
Every year in the spring and fall I see kids out in the ball fields after school playing sports and getting fresh air I think to myself 'if those whiney -------- on grm had their way you'd all be inside on the computer'.
A few people get that we're actually in Normal time now and the other part of the year is Daylight Savings Time.
Nobody I know hates DST. Everyone hates Normal time, which is what we go back to each winter.
I think there is an effort to make it DST year round.
SnowMongoose wrote: Pitch black at 5PM is THE BEST. berkeley Winter.
Near the equator you get hardly more than 12 hours of ultra-intense sunlight year round...I only see sunlight through windows while getting ready for work, on my commute and lunch break (if I could see any windows from my cubicle I could see sunlight that way). That's plenty enough solar radiation for me, but not nearly enough light.
mtn wrote:PHeller wrote: It's the farmer and their early rising that screws us all over.No, it isn't. The farmers will farm according to the sun, not some arbitrary number.
And we farmers here in Indiana get berkeleyed over by DST so peckerheads can mow their yard on week nights.......seriously, we just need to secede from EST and go CST or just say screw it and go back to never observing DST.
Brian wrote: I think there is an effort to make it DST year round.
We did it back in the early 70s. It sucked. Walking to classes in pitch black. Too many kiddies standing at bus stops in the dark.
In reply to spitfirebill:
The kids are at the bus stop in the dark no matter what time of year it is.
In summer we have lots of daylight hours. In winter we have few daylight hours. So we need DST in the winter not the summer. I hate this getting dark by 5oclock.
Nick (Not-Stig) Comstock wrote: In reply to spitfirebill: The kids are at the bus stop in the dark no matter what time of year it is.
I never caught the bus in the dark
I still don't get why we can't just shift half an hour one year and quit berkeleying with it.
around here they do … as soon as DLS hits, the kids are still outside at 6:30 - 7:30 …. in early April that's still black dark … as is the pick up times in Oct before ESD comes back
spitfirebill wrote:Nick (Not-Stig) Comstock wrote: In reply to spitfirebill: The kids are at the bus stop in the dark no matter what time of year it is.I never caught the bus in the dark
My son has never caught the bus while the sun is up.
In reply to Nick (Not-Stig) Comstock:
Depends upon which end of the time zone you're on for the most part. Who gives a flying berkeley if they're waiting in the dark, the criminal element is usually asleep before 6am.....lol
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