Hope there's an afterlife that's exponentially more painful than the pain you've caused the MacPhail family and friends. If not, hope it hurts like a motherberkeleyer, you worthless piece of E36 M3! Mmmmmmm. Cocktail.
Mike
...and Anderson Vanderbilt wept...cuz he and troy were homeeez. Hilarious.
Mike, you are my soulmate.
Or at least your 'mate,' mate.
I'm presuming Troy Davis did something bad or made someone mad?
Davis was convicted of killing a cop in '89, sentenced to death, and years later witnesses started to recant their testimony, claiming their statements were made under coercion by police.
Davis was executed around 11 pm, 9/21/11.
Im really glad you are celebrating the execution of what many believe is an innocent man. Its also cool how you like to call people fags.
guess the only person who truely knows if he was guilty or innocent won't be saying
This kind of BS is becoming too common around here.
oldsaw
SuperDork
9/21/11 11:33 p.m.
In reply to Racer1ab:
Justice long overdue..........
Davis was guilty of a non-fatal shooting that occurred the same day as the murder. The shell casings found at the first scene matched the casings found with Davis after the second shooting; the gun was never found.
A witness who claimed that Davis later admitted his crime, relayed an account of the fatal shooting and stated details that only the perpetrator could have known. Those details were recorded by police before any public dissemination of evidence were publicly released. Davis' legal defense team didn't call upon this witness during the original trial; cross examination can be a beotch.......
Other pertinent parts of the case (like the above) have been ignored by many media outlets. But justice prevailed, even if it took over twenty years.
On the bright side, it only took a little over a decade for Texas to execute a white supremacist convicted of murder in 1998. That happened today too, but without all the protest. Go figure..........
mtn
SuperDork
9/21/11 11:48 p.m.
Eh. Death penalty needs to be done away with if only for the expense of it.
SVreX
SuperDork
9/22/11 12:53 a.m.
This thread is pitiful.
Guilty or not, the police were WAAY too zealous for this one. They botched the case, only because the victim was a cop.
Entering the house without a search warrant? Pressuring witnesses? 7 of 9 witnesses recanting their testimony with signed affidavits? Their star witness is a career jailhouse stool pigeon? No weapon?
Plus, every account I have read says the casings which tied him to the crime were found at or near the scene, not that they were the ones used to kill Mr. MacPhail.
I'm a big believer in the death penalty. I'm a bigger believer in the Constitution. If the Police can't figure out how to do a criminal investigation, he's not supposed to get executed.
But I wasn't on the jury, and I find the idea of trying him (or anyone) in the newspapers patently offensive. Worse is trying him in a automotive website.
I won't pass judgment on the man, it's not my job. It's the jury's job. However, I will pass judgment on this thread and say it sucks.
It seems funny to me that his case was heard IN FULL by around 7 or 8 courts yet each and every one found enough evidence to convict him and maintain his death penalty.
Do you really think what you heard from the press makes you qualified to state that the entire system failed but the press knows better.
Who here sat on any of the juries and heard the complete case?
T.J.
SuperDork
9/22/11 6:45 a.m.
I figured since I didn't know who or what a Troy Davis was and it was a Poopie thread that this was going to be about football.
aussiesmg wrote:
It seems funny to me that his case was heard IN FULL by around 7 or 8 courts yet each and every one found enough evidence to convict him and maintain his death penalty.
Do you really think what you heard from the press makes you qualified to state that the entire system failed but the press knows better.
Who here sat on any of the juries and heard the complete case?
Not me. But having listened to the constant coverage on the more left-leaning news channels all night, where these clowns were speaking in the ultra-somber tone, almost in tears, saying what a tragedy it was that this murderer was going to be executed, constantly alluding to the idea that this was somehow an issue of race, I was, and am really excited and happy to hear he'd been executed.
Poopshovel, what would it take to convince you that race plays a role in the criminal justice system, or that it played a role in this specific case?
Not saying it did or it didn't.
And while I'm thinking about it:
Execution? Good. Execution of someone who is a symbol of a broken criminal justice system to the left? Awesome!
I get that right?
Guilty or not, I am of the opinion that the USA should suspend the death penalty until any and all reports of post trial exonerations are something people only hear about in history class.
That being said, revamp the prison system so that the inmates all have to perform hard labor at minimum wage and charge them for room and board out of their wages.
I would trade the death penalty for a prison system circa 1930's Alabama. Chain gangs, work camps, a warden on horseback with a 12 Gauge, etc.
In reply to DILYSI Dave:
We all know where that leads...
Back OT-
I know practically nothing about this case, but I found it interesting that it happened in one of only 5 states that won't allow their Governor to commute/suspend/pardon a death sentence.
mndsm
SuperDork
9/22/11 8:54 a.m.
mtn wrote:
Eh. Death penalty needs to be done away with if only for the expense of it.
Death penalty is only expensive because they let it be. 9mm rounds are cheap. I blame the gov't for cost inflation on that one.
JThw8
SuperDork
9/22/11 8:59 a.m.
DILYSI Dave wrote:
I would trade the death penalty for a prison system circa 1930's Alabama. Chain gangs, work camps, a warden on horseback with a 12 Gauge, etc.
+1 Our current system is not a deterrent.
mndsm wrote:
mtn wrote:
Eh. Death penalty needs to be done away with if only for the expense of it.
Death penalty is only expensive because they let it be. 9mm rounds are cheap. I blame the gov't for cost inflation on that one.
If they could be used in place of paid employees for government projects like road/bridge work it could actually be a profit center. Plus... when they can't work any more you can use them for scientific experiments, sell the organs to private hospitals catering to wealthy alcoholics with worn out livers and make soup for the homeless with the scraps.
There is so much waste in the current system.
There where so many holes in the Troy Davis case it should have been called Swiss Cheese. I don't know if he killed that Police Officer, but there was no physical evidence linking him to the shooting. Anyone who knows anything about ballistic forensics knows it's such a joke of a "science" it shouldn't be allowed in courts. They convicted him on eyewitnesses testimony, which is already horribly unreliable but key witnesses later recanted their statements.
I don't necessarily have a problem with the death penalty, but if you're going to kill a man for a crime you had better be sure beyond a shadow of a doubt he was guilty.
But go ahead, keep being happy about such a miscarriage of justice. It's totally something to be proud of.