DrBoost
DrBoost UltimaDork
9/14/16 8:33 a.m.

Reading an article on Yahoo about Paul Walkers death today, I found a nod to our wonderful overloards here.
From the article:
"Considering how important tires are, they aren’t given nearly enough credit in the media or in car-guy circles. Sure, every racer talks about tires, and a lot of canyon warriors will sit on top of the snake talking setup, but on the internet and in casual conversation with casual enthusiasts, tires are a dull topic. You certainly can’t brag about them on a forum the way you can with your upgraded turbo and fresh dyno chart. You have to go into the Grassroots Motorsports catalog, or to a very specific sub-genre to see a tire comparison test for your desired application, so most people just end up reading reviews on TireRack."

The0retical
The0retical Dork
9/14/16 9:42 a.m.

Interestingly I've been seeing more and more references to GRM in automotive press lately. I'm pretty sure DSport, the only semi technical car mag in the PX right now, had a reference to GRM in the last couple of months. Several websites like MotoIQ, Jalopnik, Hooniverse, and Autoblog also reference GRM from time to time.

I don't really get technical information from anywhere else, the MS3 is sort of the exception because of several highly specific tuning questions, mainly because the quality of information is so much lower elsewhere. GRM really sets the bar high.

I'll probably keel over if Consumer Reports ever references them though.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
9/14/16 9:45 a.m.

Woo hoo, we're internet famous.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
9/14/16 10:49 a.m.

We're sort of the John Mulaney of the car mag world. Not a ton of mainstream knowledge of what we do, but highly regarded within the industry. While it doesn't help buy us a lot of extra helicopters, I really cherish and am completely humbled by the respect we get from our peers in the industry. And our readers reflect that, too. Our average reader is not someone who reads "casually." He or she is looking for solid content and a high-quality community to be a member of, not just a brief distraction while they take a crap.

I think we're fortunate enough to have been able to gather a team that reflects these values and aspires to them. Personally I'd rather have a small circle of close friends than a wide net of casual acquaintances.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
9/14/16 10:50 a.m.

Also, the guy in charge of car testing at Consumer Reports is a reader. Big time LeMons/Chump racer, too. Think about that the next time you're looking over a Hybrid Camry review.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
9/14/16 10:56 a.m.

you guys never fail to impress. You have surely developed strong connections with your customers.

oldsaw
oldsaw UltimaDork
9/14/16 11:02 a.m.

I suppose it's just me, but the idea that a "car-guy" is blind to the importance of tires is bothersome. Tires are one of the necessary, common denominators for those really interested in performance.

If that article is the one penned by M. Farrah, my opinion is tainted as I view more him as an internet personality than someone who should be recognized as some sort of "expert". But he does get to drive some fun and interesting cars so he has that going for him.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
9/14/16 2:40 p.m.
JG Pasterjak wrote: He or she is looking for solid content and a high-quality community to be a member of, not just a brief distraction while they take a crap.

If this isn't in the mag in the who said what section I'm cancelling my subscription. This, right here, is not only the funniest damn thing I've read today, but also the most accurate. Although some of us are looking for high quality content WHILE I take a crap.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
9/14/16 2:41 p.m.
oldsaw wrote: I suppose it's just me, but the idea that a "car-guy" is blind to the importance of tires is bothersome. Tires are one of the necessary, common denominators for those really interested in performance. If that article is the one penned by M. Farrah, my opinion is tainted as I view more him as an internet personality than someone who should be recognized as some sort of "expert". But he does get to drive some fun and interesting cars so he has that going for him.

I don't know, I've known a lot of "car-guys" that thought all tires were round and black.

dropstep
dropstep Dork
9/14/16 2:49 p.m.

Honestly until stumbling into this forum i paid no attention too my fronts. No problem buying drag radials or slicks but my fronts just needed to fit a 6 inch rim and hold air.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/14/16 3:09 p.m.
oldsaw wrote: If that article is the one penned by M. Farrah, my opinion is tainted as I view more him as an internet personality than someone who should be recognized as some sort of "expert".

It is by M. Farrah. So, on the one hand, you may consider him a presenter, but on the other he's also the guy trying to spread the news about old tires. People can grow. Hell, I learn something just about every time I read a thread on the boards.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/14/16 3:39 p.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: Woo hoo, we're internet famous.

That and $12.50 will get you a cup of coffee at your local $tarbuck$.

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand UberDork
9/14/16 7:20 p.m.

In reply to Brett_Murphy:

Having attending a few on track events with Matt I can tell you that he plays to the audience quite a lot and knows more than he pens or lets onto on air. Think of it as how USA Today is written to a 3rd grade level. He could do better and be more respected if he desired, but it wouldn't gain him market share.

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 UltraDork
9/14/16 7:50 p.m.

When did Yahoo autos become a aggregate of various auto sites? That article is from thedrive.com

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/16/16 10:15 a.m.
Bobzilla wrote:
oldsaw wrote: I suppose it's just me, but the idea that a "car-guy" is blind to the importance of tires is bothersome. Tires are one of the necessary, common denominators for those really interested in performance. If that article is the one penned by M. Farrah, my opinion is tainted as I view more him as an internet personality than someone who should be recognized as some sort of "expert". But he does get to drive some fun and interesting cars so he has that going for him.
I don't know, I've known a lot of "car-guys" that thought all tires were round and black.

Don't forget that performance/racing guys are a small subset of car guys...to most car guys, they are indeed just those round black rubber things your car rolls around on, and once they're good enough for street use (as in have somewhat decent grip and don't make a lot of noise) those people are satisfied.

keethrax
keethrax Dork
9/16/16 11:04 a.m.
Bobzilla wrote:
JG Pasterjak wrote: He or she is looking for solid content and a high-quality community to be a member of, not just a brief distraction while they take a crap.
If this isn't in the mag in the who said what section I'm cancelling my subscription. This, right here, is not only the funniest damn thing I've read today, but also the most accurate. Although some of us are looking for high quality content WHILE I take a crap.

Does the fact that it was JG disqualify it?

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
9/16/16 11:17 a.m.
keethrax wrote:
Bobzilla wrote:
JG Pasterjak wrote: He or she is looking for solid content and a high-quality community to be a member of, not just a brief distraction while they take a crap.
If this isn't in the mag in the who said what section I'm cancelling my subscription. This, right here, is not only the funniest damn thing I've read today, but also the most accurate. Although some of us are looking for high quality content WHILE I take a crap.
Does the fact that it was JG disqualify it?

The fact that I'm me disqualifies me from a lot of stuff. this should be no different.

The0retical
The0retical Dork
9/16/16 12:14 p.m.
JG Pasterjak wrote: Also, the guy in charge of car testing at Consumer Reports is a reader. Big time LeMons/Chump racer, too. Think about that the next time you're looking over a Hybrid Camry review.

That actually explain every single thing written in the review of the Mitsubishi Mirage. I could almost feel the disdain dripping off the page. (yes I do read their car reviews believe it or not)

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/16/16 6:52 p.m.
JG Pasterjak wrote:
keethrax wrote:
Bobzilla wrote:
JG Pasterjak wrote: He or she is looking for solid content and a high-quality community to be a member of, not just a brief distraction while they take a crap.
If this isn't in the mag in the who said what section I'm cancelling my subscription. This, right here, is not only the funniest damn thing I've read today, but also the most accurate. Although some of us are looking for high quality content WHILE I take a crap.
Does the fact that it was JG disqualify it?
The fact that I'm me disqualifies me from a lot of stuff. this should be no different.

That and the first ruel of fight club as well.

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/16/16 7:29 p.m.

I've witnessed threads on this forum about what cheap tires to run on various cars.

Not every car needs purple crack.

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