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T.J.
T.J. PowerDork
12/10/14 7:11 p.m.
Nick_Comstock wrote: I'm annoyed with the others because they used to play gran Turismo with us and now they don't.

I still haven't tried out the Logitech wheel I bought myself for Christmas 2012 and I don't have GT6 anyway. I've only used the PS3 to stream movies on for the past 2 years. Don't think I've played a game.

Maybe someday, I'll come back. It was fun.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
12/10/14 8:03 p.m.

In reply to madmallard:

PM must be broken. I've been trying to warn you for years.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
12/10/14 8:06 p.m.
slefain wrote:
Toyman01 wrote: In reply to slefain: It better be a big step ladder. And you might want to call him sir.
I hear Dave's bass guitar strings are made from the lower intestines of his enemies. And that he once straightened a set of bent B16 Honda rods with his bare hands. Once he bled a clutch by simply growling at it. Before every autocross he chooses one random cone, tips it over, and eats it in front of all the other cones as a warning to stay upright. He resurfaced a flywheel with his beard. He doesn't set engine timing by sound or feel, but by taste. His left hand is calibrated in lb/ft, his right hand is calibrated in in/lbs. Damn that was off topic but I'm cracking myself up here.

Don't slow your roll now... I'm stealing this and it's not enough material for a full set.

dimarra
dimarra Dork
12/10/14 10:42 p.m.

I find this whole thread annoying.

...and don't get me started on the word "annoy."

Morbid
Morbid Reader
12/10/14 11:35 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: What sort of butt dart takes someone aside to just say "You are annoying"? I mean aside from kindergarteners with a crush and melodramatic passive-aggressive Midwestern women with a world view the size of Peoria? Someone who needs a public shaming, thats who.

It's a good thing I live in Pekin (and usually directly-aggressive when the occasion arises), and am not paranoid or I'd think you were talking about me...

Not that I'm self-absorbed or egotistical or anything

oldsaw
oldsaw UltimaDork
12/10/14 11:46 p.m.
slefain wrote: Bravenrace annoying? Not to me. But if I ever see that DILYSIDave again I'm going to go straight to my garage, get a step ladder, and go tell him what I REALLY think of him to his face! And don't get me started on that Oldsaw guy...

Damn, after all these years the truth finally comes out. I always knew there was good reason to not have beers with you after work.

Mitchell
Mitchell UltraDork
12/11/14 1:29 a.m.

GRM offers the least worst political discussions on the 'net. Democrat, republican, left, right; whenever I feel like a group is on the verge of chanting, that's my cue to get some distance. At least people here are capable of thinking as individuals.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
12/11/14 7:18 a.m.
N Sperlo wrote: I may find someone annoying at some point, but I think I forget the next day. Or next hour.

That pretty much describes me as well. And I never remember who it was. Each day is a reboot.

slefain
slefain UberDork
12/11/14 8:04 a.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
slefain wrote:
Toyman01 wrote: In reply to slefain: It better be a big step ladder. And you might want to call him sir.
I hear Dave's bass guitar strings are made from the lower intestines of his enemies. And that he once straightened a set of bent B16 Honda rods with his bare hands. Once he bled a clutch by simply growling at it. Before every autocross he chooses one random cone, tips it over, and eats it in front of all the other cones as a warning to stay upright. He resurfaced a flywheel with his beard. He doesn't set engine timing by sound or feel, but by taste. His left hand is calibrated in lb/ft, his right hand is calibrated in in/lbs. Damn that was off topic but I'm cracking myself up here.
Don't slow your roll now... I'm stealing this and it's not enough material for a full set.

His autocross times, when listed in order, complete Pi to the 1,000th place. His racing number has been retired....twice. His racing suit is both flame retardant and mint flavored. His fingernails naturally grow to 0.44" thick. Dave can break tire beads with his bare hands. The DOT asks for his approval. He doesn't run a rear sway bar for personal reasons.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
12/11/14 8:11 a.m.

In reply to slefain:

Hey, here's an idea - Why don't you start another thread for your Dave-love fest.

slefain
slefain UberDork
12/11/14 8:37 a.m.
bravenrace wrote: In reply to slefain: Hey, here's an idea - Why don't you start another thread for your Dave-love fest.

Only if you admit that I've annoyed you, which would make me more annoying than you, which would then get you off the hook for being most annoying. Unfortunately that means at some point someone has to REALLY annoy me to pass it on.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
12/11/14 8:39 a.m.

In reply to slefain:

Wait, when did I become the MOST annoying?

Nick_Comstock
Nick_Comstock PowerDork
12/11/14 8:58 a.m.

In reply to bravenrace:

When you started this thread

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
12/11/14 8:59 a.m.

In reply to Nick_Comstock:

Thanks for clearing that up...

Nick_Comstock
Nick_Comstock PowerDork
12/11/14 9:07 a.m.

Just a joke man

Why are you being so sensitive? Sensitive people are the most annoying

slefain
slefain UberDork
12/11/14 9:14 a.m.
Nick_Comstock wrote: Just a joke man Why are you being so sensitive? Sensitive people are the most annoying

Don't be annoying Nick.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
12/11/14 9:25 a.m.
Nick_Comstock wrote: In reply to Swank Force One: If it was RWD I would. The competition has gotten much closer but it would be better if all of you would come back and we could have full rooms every week. Just come back and play.

I don't have GT6.

Richard Nixon
Richard Nixon SuperDork
12/11/14 9:49 a.m.

I was only ever annoyed that I was never able to run my wagon against your BMW at that autocross.

RossD
RossD PowerDork
12/11/14 9:55 a.m.

You don't annoy me, but something you said still bugs me. I think it was you, at least.

The difference between lbs-ft and ft-lbs. I still can't find information that proves to me that there is a difference. Is it because torque is defined as the cross product between a distance and a force vector, and the cross product is anticommutative (A x B = -B x A)? But what sets the precedence of which is in the 'A' position? And if I can pick, it's just a point of reference and doesn't affect the resultant. (Right hand Rule vs Left Hand)

Multiplication is commutative, however, so ab = ba and lbft = ftlb.

If we look to the SI nomenclature, then it's N*m to keep it being from being confused with mN, millinewtons. If that's the reason to keep torque termed as lbs-ft, it's semantics.

As a mechanical engineer, I don't like thinking that I'm missing something that could be so fundamental.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
12/11/14 10:41 a.m.

I'm not an Engineer, spending a few nights in a girls' dorm doesn't make you a student.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot-pound_(energy)

The foot-pound force (symbol: ft·lbf or ft·lbf), or simply foot-pound (symbol: ft·lb) is a unit of work or energy in the Engineering and Gravitational Systems in United States customary and imperial units of measure. It is the energy transferred on applying a force of one pound-force (lbf) through a displacement of one foot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound-foot_(torque)

A pound-foot (lb·ft or lbf·ft) is a unit of torque (a pseudovector). One pound-foot is the torque created by one pound force acting at a perpendicular distance of one foot from a pivot point.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
12/11/14 10:45 a.m.
RossD wrote: You don't annoy me, but something you said still bugs me. I think it was you, at least. The difference between lbs-ft and ft-lbs. I still can't find information that proves to me that there is a difference. Is it because torque is defined as the cross product between a distance and a force vector, and the cross product is anticommutative (A x B = -B x A)? But what sets the precedence of which is in the 'A' position? And if I can pick, it's just a point of reference and doesn't affect the resultant. (Right hand Rule vs Left Hand) Multiplication is commutative, however, so a*b = b*a and lb*ft = ft*lb. If we look to the SI nomenclature, then it's N*m to keep it being from being confused with mN, millinewtons. If that's the reason to keep torque termed as lbs-ft, it's semantics. As a mechanical engineer, I don't like thinking that I'm missing something that could be so fundamental.

That wasn't me.

Nick_Comstock
Nick_Comstock PowerDork
12/11/14 11:23 a.m.
Swank Force One wrote:
Nick_Comstock wrote: In reply to Swank Force One: If it was RWD I would. The competition has gotten much closer but it would be better if all of you would come back and we could have full rooms every week. Just come back and play.
I don't have GT6.

That's annoying

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
12/11/14 11:27 a.m.

In reply to Nick_Comstock:

I have GT6 but can't stand it.

fasted58
fasted58 PowerDork
12/11/14 11:29 a.m.

Ignoring annoyances.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
12/11/14 11:41 a.m.
914Driver wrote: I'm not an Engineer, spending a few nights in a girls' dorm doesn't make you a student. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot-pound_(energy) The foot-pound force (symbol: ft·lbf or ft·lbf), or simply foot-pound (symbol: ft·lb) is a unit of work or energy in the Engineering and Gravitational Systems in United States customary and imperial units of measure. It is the energy transferred on applying a force of one pound-force (lbf) through a displacement of one foot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound-foot_(torque) A pound-foot (lb·ft or lbf·ft) is a unit of torque (a pseudovector). One pound-foot is the torque created by one pound force acting at a perpendicular distance of one foot from a pivot point.

^what he said

The word perpendicular is the key differentiator.

I think of it as one is a force that can be applied anywhere. The other is adding the criteria that it be acting on a specific point with a force perpendicular to the point. Jumping on a diving board. The diver applies a force to one end of the board. So... you can measure the diver's application of force at his feet in ft.lbf and you can then calculate the lb.ft acting on the ladder end.

If the unit is one the values will be the same between the two but as the two points move further apart the velocity and force are divided/multiplied in the case of the lb.ft definition.

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