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Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/2/17 9:08 a.m.

re: lift

I guess I don't see how it matters how tall the posts are. If the pads go up to 6 ft, and you are lifting a minivan that high, you will need 11-12 ft of ceiling minimum, maybe more for an SUV.

But yes, I do still need to get into comparing and contrasting lift specs. I do appreciate the recommendations!

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/2/17 9:11 a.m.
Tom Suddard wrote: It sounds like you're planning exactly what I'm building in the magazine, so let me know if you have any questions as far as how/why. I think my building is just barely under 15', too. And let me recommend Master Garage Builders, too. Best garage kit ever, and they'd deliver to you. This is a big project, btw. I just came in from sanding drywall.

You chose to make the building 3 stalls wide, I probably don't quite have that space (max width about 30'). Do you feel you have the depth necessary for all cases? and what cases are you planning for?

(heads back to re-read the articles, may answer his own questions)

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
8/2/17 9:56 a.m.
Robbie wrote:
Tom Suddard wrote: It sounds like you're planning exactly what I'm building in the magazine, so let me know if you have any questions as far as how/why. I think my building is just barely under 15', too. And let me recommend Master Garage Builders, too. Best garage kit ever, and they'd deliver to you. This is a big project, btw. I just came in from sanding drywall.
Thought they were just local to FL! That must have been the concrete guy Stacey. I'll look them up now. I learned a few years back that the best tool for mudding/taping/sanding drywall was a checkbook. I'll screw the panels on, but holy crap does the rest of the work take an experienced hand.

Every drywaller I know will charge a higher rate to finish work if you hang the drywall.

"Screwing on the panels" is not as simple as it looks either. Most amateurs will put joints in all the wrong places, install butt joints against tapered joints, add excessive joints in a futile attempt to save a few dollars by using less drywall, and set screws poorly.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Associate Editor
8/2/17 10:22 a.m.

Yep, mine is 24x30, and while I haven't moved in yet (still finishing it), I have done a few projects in it along the way and am super happy with the depth. And yes, Master Garage Builders only assembles in Florida and Georgia, but they can deliver a kit for you to setup almost anywhere in the country.

Regarding the finishing–yep, that's the difficult/expensive part. Building the shell of the building was quick and easy, but finishing it is time-consuming and expensive. And I agree with Paul–either do the drywall yourself like I did, or farm it out completely. I don't think you'll find anybody that wants to tape and mud your work.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn UltimaDork
8/2/17 10:23 a.m.

Coincidentally, Bendpak just announced they've come out with a two post lift that will fit 9 foot ceilings:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366910

http://www.bendpak.com/GrandPrix-Car-Lift.pdf

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/2/17 10:32 a.m.

Interesting re: drywall

Two years ago I tore my house down to studs to insulate all the exterior walls. I learned how to hang drywall right, and after spending a weekend trying to mud/tape one single room I had someone come take a look. They bid $300 to mud/tape/sand the whole place. Two guys showed up the next day, one on stilts and the other on the ground and they knocked it out in about 6 hours. A couple days later one guy came back for 2-3 hours to do a quick sand and touch up.

It felt like I got the best deal in the world, maybe I did.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
8/2/17 11:44 a.m.

In reply to Robbie:

For the whole house?

Yep. You did.

SkinnyG
SkinnyG SuperDork
8/2/17 12:46 p.m.

Re: Drywall - You get WAY better at auto body after drywalling your entire house/shop.

Re: Covered Porch - Sometimes stuff just shows up after everything's all signed off and completed.

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/2/17 11:42 a.m.

We're BACK!

Here is what I ended up with after working with the architect. Now I'm going through the process with the city and getting bids. In the second pic you can see we were able to get a full 12ft of inside height for a big chunk of the inside of the building.

Thoughts? Comments? Questions? What should I be focusing on now?

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/2/17 12:32 p.m.

That's really nice. 

Didnt you need an end entry?

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/2/17 12:35 p.m.

What are the dimensions?

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/2/17 1:02 p.m.

We ended up making it wider than deeper by a little, just because we are never going to use the small side yard on the far side of the garage, but we might use the space behind it. Therefore the entry doors are on the front for the cars and one on the side near the rear for people. Final dimensions 31 wide 27 deep. 837 sqft.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/2/17 1:20 p.m.

Cool

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/25/17 4:40 p.m.

Ground is broken, footings and walls are poured! (yes, my village is 'over the top' requiring us to use formed footings rather than earthen footings). The slab should be poured tuesday or wednesday after giving the walls a few days to set up.

Footings:

 

Foundation Walls:

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth MegaDork
11/25/17 7:42 p.m.

Looks like one hell of a Christmas present. 

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
11/25/17 9:04 p.m.
mazdeuce - Seth said:

Looks like one hell of a Christmas present. 

My wife said she was going to buy a big red bow and put it on the garage for Christmas. I told her to get a really high-end one since she was going to need to put the bow on the garage every Christmas, Father's day, and birthday for about the next 40 years, and I don't want a crappy, worn-out looking bow on my garage.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
11/26/17 8:05 a.m.

Require formed footings??  I've never heard of anything so ridiculous.

Congrats!

2002maniac
2002maniac Dork
11/27/17 5:11 p.m.

Congrats!  I'm going to keep dreaming, maybe someday I'll have the chance to build a shop.

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
12/11/17 10:27 a.m.

Some updates!

Forms off:

Backfilled, ready for slab pour, covered with blankets (this stuff happens fast!)

slab poured, recovered with blankets

they had a sunny day so they let the blankets air out a bit:

2x6 walls

More walls, giant beam

Front view - yes, those are 12ft walls in front

Sheeting started.

 

Some big changes in less than 2 weeks, I think they will be working on getting a roof up in the next day or two. Inside the concrete slab is also sealed and saw cut.

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth MegaDork
12/11/17 10:34 a.m.

As soon as  you can stand inside and not see sky it starts to feel like a real building. 

Looks awesome. 

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/7/18 10:40 a.m.

I guess I posted some other stuff in a different thread, maybe I'll try to find it. But the garage has been up for a few months now and I love it. I can swing out a work after the kids go to bed, and get an hour or two in.

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/7/18 10:42 a.m.

Pegboard went up last night.

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/7/18 10:46 a.m.
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