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Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/31/10 4:22 p.m.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/31/national/main6349143.shtml

Obama to Permit Oil Drilling Off Virginia

President Expected to Reverse Long-Standing Ban on Most Offshore Drilling, But Reject Planned Alaska Sites

(AP) In a reversal of a long-standing ban on most offshore drilling, President Obama is allowing oil drilling 50 miles off Virginia's coast. At the same time, he is rejecting some new drilling sites that had been planned in Alaska.

Obama's plan offers few concessions to environmentalists, who have been strident in their opposition to more oil platforms off U.S. shores. Hinted at for months, the plan modifies a ban that for more than 20 years has limited drilling along coastal areas other than the Gulf of Mexico.

Obama was set to announce the new drilling policy Wednesday at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland. White House officials pitched the changes as ways to reduce U.S. reliance on foreign oil and create jobs - both politically popular ideas - but the president's decisions also could help secure support for a climate change bill languishing in Congress.

The president, joined by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, also was set to announce that proposed leases in Alaska's Bristol Bay would be cancelled. The Interior Department also planned to reverse last year's decision to open up parts of the Chukchi and Beaufort seas. Instead, scientists would study the sites to see if they're suitable to future leases.

Obama is allowing an expansion in Alaska's Cook Inlet to go forward. The plan also would leave in place the moratorium on drilling off the West Coast.

In addition, the Interior Department has prepared a plan to add drilling platforms in the eastern Gulf of Mexico if Congress allows that moratorium to expire. Lawmakers in 2008 allowed a similar moratorium to expire; at the time President George W. Bush lifted the ban, which opened the door to Obama's change in policy.

Under Obama's plan, drilling could take place 125 miles from Florida's Gulf coastline if lawmakers allow the moratorium to expire. Drilling already takes place in western and central areas in the Gulf of Mexico.

The president's team has been busy on energy policy and Obama talked about it in his State of the Union address in January to Congress. During that speech, he said he wanted the United States to build a new generation of nuclear power plans and invest in biofuel and coal technologies.

"It means making tough decisions about opening new offshore areas for oil and gas development," he warned.

Obama also urged Congress to complete work on a climate change and energy bill, which has remained elusive. The president met with lawmakers earlier this month at the White House about a bill cutting emissions of pollution-causing greenhouse gases by 17 per cent by 2020. The legislation would also expand domestic oil and gas drilling offshore and provide federal assistance for constructing nuclear power plants and carbon sequestration and storage projects at coal-fired utilities.

shadetree30
shadetree30 New Reader
3/31/10 5:16 p.m.

Unfortunately with this President I see a ploy to make cap-and-trade (Cap and tax) more palatable...

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
3/31/10 5:22 p.m.

this is not what I voted for...

  1. no single payer health care
  2. now this..
SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
3/31/10 5:31 p.m.

Dude! That's 3 times in 2 days that I have completely agreed with you!

It's not what I voted for either!

billy3esq
billy3esq SuperDork
3/31/10 5:47 p.m.

In reply to SVreX:

It's the end of the world as we know it.

/REM

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
3/31/10 5:52 p.m.
SVreX wrote: Dude! That's 3 times in 2 days that I have completely agreed with you! It's not what I voted for either!

you and me are not so unlike each other....

I'm just younger and mouthier..

and still have internets bravado.

Back on topic..

I can't help but think to myself... "ohh boy just another give away to big business"

mtn
mtn SuperDork
3/31/10 5:55 p.m.
shadetree30 wrote: Unfortunately with this President I see a ploy to make cap-and-trade (Cap and tax) more palatable...

Ugg...

For those of you who don't understand Cap and Trade---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-htSSHxsE

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
3/31/10 5:59 p.m.

SvRex & Billy3esq so you two guys are the ones responsible for the Obamination? I'd keep that very very quiet!

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/31/10 6:13 p.m.

My biggest concern is that this is a maneuver to upset the balance of power in the Middle East by making the Saudi’s appear less relevant so Iran can fill the power vacuum that will be created.

The more obvious explanation, as Shadetree 30 indicated, is that this is a concession meant to soften opposition to Cap-And-Trade.

In either case, I doubt we’ll ever actually extract oil.

Question…how many folks on this board take the President at face value and believe he’s sincerely doing this because he feels the benefits outweigh drawbacks and there’s no ulterior motive?

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
3/31/10 6:33 p.m.
RX Reven' wrote: Question…how many folks on this board take the President at face value and believe he’s sincerely doing this because he feels the benefits outweigh drawbacks and there’s no ulterior motive?

No it's political..

he's banking on the fact that none of this stuff will happen for 10-14 years down the line sooooo, before the companies start moving on drilling, someone will take away the right..

edit: the more I think about it, what he's trying to do is draw the repubs out into the open. They cry he won't listen.. Ok so now he's going to go with one of their ideas.. Put up or shut up time now boys.. If they go along with him, they'll look like fools. If they don't go along with him, well.. You make up your mind.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy Reader
3/31/10 6:42 p.m.

Whats the deal with the offshore drill ban anyway? The American citizens would rather support Canadian tar sands development? A NIMBY thing?

BobOfTheFuture
BobOfTheFuture Reader
3/31/10 7:54 p.m.

So, last week the abortion people, now the enviromentalists, whats the next core voter base obama will alienate next?

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess SuperDork
3/31/10 7:57 p.m.

We Can't Drill Our Way Out Of This Problem (problem being not enough oil wells in the U.S.) The Dems told us that 2 years ago.

So, hey, how about we drill where there's no oil? Yeah, that'll keep the retards (that would be us) happy. Just don't drill where there is any oil, like off the PRC coast, ANWAR, the Green River Valley, the Gulf of Mexico, etc. Sure, drill off of Virginia all you want.

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
3/31/10 8:19 p.m.
ignorant wrote: this is not what I voted for... 1. no single payer health care 2. now this..

Hotlinked with pride!

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/31/10 8:30 p.m.
Jensenman wrote:
ignorant wrote: this is not what I voted for... 1. no single payer health care 2. now this..
Hotlinked with pride!

NFW i don't miss him a bit - he was the biggest E36 M3 of them all. however, when you are comparing E36 M3 to E36 M3, it all stinks. by E36 M3 i mean politicians and by all i mean all.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
3/31/10 8:36 p.m.
Jensenman wrote:
ignorant wrote: this is not what I voted for... 1. no single payer health care 2. now this..
Hotlinked with pride!

http://www.icasualties.org/ There have been 4386 US deaths in Iraq to date... Ask their mothers if they miss him..

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
3/31/10 8:45 p.m.

Hornet's nest hit with stick: check.

Capt Slow
Capt Slow HalfDork
3/31/10 8:53 p.m.

We really shouldn't be drilling, we need to finish using up the rest of the worlds oil. That way when WWIII rolls around we will have our own "private reserve"...

Capt Slow
Capt Slow HalfDork
3/31/10 8:54 p.m.

I maintain its an early April fools joke...

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/31/10 9:03 p.m.
Capt Slow wrote: We really shouldn't be drilling, we need to finish using up the rest of the worlds oil. That way when WWIII rolls around we will have our own "private reserve"...

Nail meet head. Maybe.

There have been suggestions that this is exactly what is going on. Not necessarily the WWIII reference, but using everyone else's oil first and leaving the US as the only significant supply left. Probably a tin foil hat idea, but there is some merit to it.

Iggy, I'm starting to worry about one of us. We are agreeing on way too much stuff.

oldsaw
oldsaw Dork
3/31/10 9:43 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote:
Capt Slow wrote: We really shouldn't be drilling, we need to finish using up the rest of the worlds oil. That way when WWIII rolls around we will have our own "private reserve"...
Nail meet head. Maybe. There have been suggestions that this is exactly what is going on. Not necessarily the WWIII reference, but using everyone else's oil first and leaving the US as the only significant supply left. Probably a tin foil hat idea, but there is some merit to it. Iggy, I'm starting to worry about one of us. We are agreeing on way too much stuff.

Even die-hard libs get something right once in a while. That doesn't mean you should entrust a blind squirrel to fill your acorn basket.

It would be nice to believe the feds and energy companies have a long-term interest in coming somewhere close to energy-independence, but neither seem capable of managing money or time in a way that inspires confidence.

z31maniac
z31maniac Dork
3/31/10 9:55 p.m.

Yeah, damn those big business and all the jobs they provide.

Guess I don't have the vitriol that some do since all three places I've worked since college have been large corporations (State Farm, Mercury Marine, defense work)

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
3/31/10 11:11 p.m.
Jensenman wrote:
ignorant wrote: this is not what I voted for... 1. no single payer health care 2. now this..
Hotlinked with pride!

I miss Nixon. And I wasn't born till 10 years after he resigned.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/31/10 11:38 p.m.
Capt Slow wrote: We really shouldn't be drilling, we need to finish using up the rest of the worlds oil. That way when WWIII rolls around we will have our own "private reserve"...

I agree 100%.

We don't need it now as much as we will need it later.

As Groundskeeper Willie put it, that's our retirement grease!

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro Dork
4/1/10 12:34 a.m.
neon4891 wrote: I miss Nixon. And I wasn't born till 10 years after he resigned.

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