E cigarettes rant

Yup, kids never buy anything illegal.

Just think of them as crack pipes. I laugh.

Toyman01 wrote: Yep, and sometimes parents suck too. You don't need regulations to smack a kid upside the head for being stupid.

This- If parents are stupid enough to let this crap happen, that's their own damn fault when the kid does goofballs and shoots up marijuanas.

SVreX wrote: How about dry humping parties during recess? Kids can have fun grinding their hips together- perhaps without clothing, as long as there is no penetration. After a few minutes, switch partners until you have humped every male and female on the playground??

This pretty much wraps up my high school experiences.
Those were the days!

However, I was never a smoker (I did not like the smell) and I did not like cocaine (but I did like the way it smelled - a couple of times.)

JohnRW1621 wrote:

SVreX wrote: How about dry humping parties during recess? Kids can have fun grinding their hips together- perhaps without clothing, as long as there is no penetration. After a few minutes, switch partners until you have humped every male and female on the playground??

This pretty much wraps up my high school experiences. Those were the days! However, I was never a smoker (I did not like the smell) and I did not like cocaine (but I did like the way it smelled - a couple of times.)

It's funny. I was a smoker, and I NEVER liked the smell. Even now I'm like WTF did I do that for? And then i'm like.... oooh, a smoke break sounds AMAZING.

SVreX wrote: In reply to wearymicrobe: I did a lot of weird (and unhealthy) things to kick my 5 pack a day habit. No regrets. Please note, my rant was entirely about minors, and they are not using them to kick habits. They are using them to develop habits.

5 packs a day? that's.. 100 smokes... how did you have time for NOT smoking with that many smoke breaks to take?

I started with my kid when she was really young, tried to instill in her just how dumb smoking is. So far it's worked. I do my best to keep the lines of communication open, I know she's going to push the boundaries but so far as I can tell she's not doing anything really stupid. But I digress.

Nicotine is not illegal but it is definitely addictive, advertising for this crap should NOT be directed at children. If it's not going to be made illegal then I think there should be an age limit on it in ANY ingested form.

The whole 'vaping' thing is just a childish fad IMHO, I think (hope) it will go away or at least drop way down.

In reply to mndsm:

Someone's gotta keep that gas line rupture burnin'........

Curmudgeon, you've got the right idea, once the curmudgeonlings are older though, don't keep pushing.....my parents did that and the stress led me to it at 21. I've quit twice but something bad always puts me back into the habit to keep from going off the deep end.

I thought the piece on NPR was very well done, considering that it was produced, written, and recorded by a middle school kid.

E-cigs are dumb, but having Asthma my whole life has caused me to never want to inhale anything.

mndsm wrote:

JohnRW1621 wrote:

SVreX wrote: How about dry humping parties during recess? Kids can have fun grinding their hips together- perhaps without clothing, as long as there is no penetration. After a few minutes, switch partners until you have humped every male and female on the playground??

This pretty much wraps up my high school experiences. Those were the days! However, I was never a smoker (I did not like the smell) and I did not like cocaine (but I did like the way it smelled - a couple of times.)

It's funny. I was a smoker, and I NEVER liked the smell. Even now I'm like WTF did I do that for? And then i'm like.... oooh, a smoke break sounds AMAZING.

it is amazing when you walk into the smoking sections of the casino floor.. makes you want to gag if you are not a smoker...

And then you get the retards who think they can smoke -anywhere- in the casino.. and get upset when a security guard asks them nicely to put it out

Ultimately, I think e-digs will be put into the same category as regular tobacco cigs and who can buy and use them. That will be the first major regulation. Second will be the regulation of WHERE they are allowed to be used. Eventually, they will only be allowed to be used by robots and bounty hunters sent back from the future to capture said robots. We'll be able to tell their alignment via the color of the fake ash.

I certainly don't buy the "It's not dangerous smoke, it's just harmless vapor" line. Sure, if the gas can in my garage is leaking, it's just dispersing harmless vapor as well. Until someone lights a cigarette and blows my garage all to hell.

Hey, I guess real cigs ARE more dangerous!

There is some benefit to be had from the concept of "harm-reduction." If you're 100lbs overweight, and you lose 60lbs, you haven't "solved" the problem, but you have greatly reduced the potential harm you were doing. If users of e-digs applied that model to real cigs,maybe there could be some benefit—or at least reduction of harm.

But, yeah, marketing them to kids is scummy, as are most tobacco companies (no surprise there).

Personally, I've averse to smoking pretty much anything, except ham or brisket. I've got lung issues from way back in the day. I just can't imagine it agreeing with me.

Now, the weed-infused beef jerky they're making in Colorado...

In reply to JG Pasterjak:

Weren't you recently in that area? No more Princess cruises, its Rocky Mountain High vacations now?

mndsm wrote:

SVreX wrote: In reply to wearymicrobe: I did a lot of weird (and unhealthy) things to kick my 5 pack a day habit. No regrets. Please note, my rant was entirely about minors, and they are not using them to kick habits. They are using them to develop habits.

5 packs a day? that's.. 100 smokes... how did you have time for NOT smoking with that many smoke breaks to take?

easy … keep one lit nearly all the time … at least that's how I did it ( 4 1/2- 5 packs a day while in Viet Nam)

The way I see it, smoking in combat is completely understandable and excusable. If I ever found myself having to point the business end of a tool meant to inject hot lead into human flesh at said humans repeatedly, I'd probably take it up, too.

I already smoked … this was my last yr (4 yr hitch) in the Navy … 8"gun heavy cruiser … the NVA weren't likely to hit us, but it didn't stop me from be, sub-consciencely, skerid E36 M3less… lol

I did a site visit in a local company that makes vaping solution. He willfully told me nicotene was their main ingredient and is deadly. But they ad a lot of things to the solution. He also said they were not regulated at that time. The govt is going to get into this, hopefully because of the health implications, but they are proably going to go after the tax side of it first. Because dropping real cigs for fake cigs makes the taxes go away.

wbjones wrote: I already smoked … this was my last yr (4 yr hitch) in the Navy … 8"gun heavy cruiser … the NVA weren't likely to hit us, but it didn't stop me from be, sub-consciencely, skerid E36 M3less… lol

My father was brownwater navy in Vietnam. He took up smoking then too

Derick Freese wrote: In reply to JG Pasterjak: Weren't you recently in that area? No more Princess cruises, its Rocky Mountain High vacations now?

Nah, not really my scene. I'm just fascinated at the concept of beef jerky that makes you want Doritos. It's like some sort of endless feedback loop.

What about weed blasted Doritos? You know those HAVE to be down the product pipeline. Maybe call the Doweedos.

Derick Freese wrote: What about weed blasted Doritos? You know those HAVE to be down the product pipeline. Maybe call the Doweedos.

And here I thought I'd stumbled on the ultimate dorito recursion when I put Dorito Loco Taco flavored Doritos in my Dorito Loco Taco.... I think you've just broken physics. Or something.

Next time: dividing by zero.

wbjones wrote:

mndsm wrote:

SVreX wrote: In reply to wearymicrobe: I did a lot of weird (and unhealthy) things to kick my 5 pack a day habit. No regrets. Please note, my rant was entirely about minors, and they are not using them to kick habits. They are using them to develop habits.

5 packs a day? that's.. 100 smokes... how did you have time for NOT smoking with that many smoke breaks to take?

easy … keep one lit nearly all the time … at least that's how I did it ( 4 1/2- 5 packs a day while in Viet Nam)

^Yep^

No breaks- I worked with one hanging out of my mouth, and lit each one off the previous.

mndsm wrote:

Derick Freese wrote: What about weed blasted Doritos? You know those HAVE to be down the product pipeline. Maybe call the Doweedos.

And here I thought I'd stumbled on the ultimate dorito recursion when I put Dorito Loco Taco flavored Doritos in my Dorito Loco Taco.... I think you've just broken physics. Or something.

Its only a matter of time before we have Doritos locos tacos Doritos tacos, and then Doritos locos tacos Doritos tacos Doritos.

SVreX wrote:

wbjones wrote:

mndsm wrote:

SVreX wrote: In reply to wearymicrobe: I did a lot of weird (and unhealthy) things to kick my 5 pack a day habit. No regrets. Please note, my rant was entirely about minors, and they are not using them to kick habits. They are using them to develop habits.

5 packs a day? that's.. 100 smokes... how did you have time for NOT smoking with that many smoke breaks to take?

easy … keep one lit nearly all the time … at least that's how I did it ( 4 1/2- 5 packs a day while in Viet Nam)

^Yep^ No breaks- I worked with one hanging out of my mouth, and lit each one off the previous.

I keep forgetting, there was a time when people could smoke in places. I'm pretty sure my dad did in front of high speed lathes for most of his life.

Kenny_McCormic wrote:

mndsm wrote:

Derick Freese wrote: What about weed blasted Doritos? You know those HAVE to be down the product pipeline. Maybe call the Doweedos.

And here I thought I'd stumbled on the ultimate dorito recursion when I put Dorito Loco Taco flavored Doritos in my Dorito Loco Taco.... I think you've just broken physics. Or something.

Its only a matte of time before we have Doritos locos tacos Doritos tacos, and then Doritos locos tacos Doritos tacos Doritos.

Eat because you're stoned, and you're stoned because you eat. Its a vicious cycle.

Brilliant marketing.