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Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
10/17/13 1:19 p.m.

Can we get back to the thieves that stole from us now?

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
10/17/13 1:25 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote: Can we get back to the thieves that stole from us now?

Sure, we will start as soon as people starting voting the crooks out of office who commit the real theft.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde SuperDork
10/17/13 3:13 p.m.

How does this compare to all the federal employees who took state-funded unemployment during the shutdown but will now be paid all the wages they missed? Should they have to pay back the unemployment $ to the state? Or should the federal gov repay the states?

Ideally, I would love to see it taken out of congressional salaries, but that's unlikely...

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/17/13 3:21 p.m.

I do not understand why they get paid back salary. They did not berkeleying work. This pisses me off more than the shutdown in the first place.

The_Jed
The_Jed SuperDork
10/17/13 3:32 p.m.

In reply to nocones:

We wouldn't want the perpetrators of this travesty to suffer, would we?

mtn
mtn UltimaDork
10/17/13 3:33 p.m.
The_Jed wrote: In reply to nocones: We wouldn't want the perpetrators of this travesty to suffer, would we?

In all fairness, most of the government employees are not the perpetrators. And actually, the perpetrators were being paid the entire time.

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
10/17/13 4:53 p.m.
nocones wrote: I do not understand why they get paid back salary. They did not berkeleying work. This pisses me off more than the shutdown in the first place.

I've wondered that too.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/17/13 5:14 p.m.
ultraclyde wrote: How does this compare to all the federal employees who took state-funded unemployment during the shutdown but will now be paid all the wages they missed? Should they have to pay back the unemployment $ to the state? Or should the federal gov repay the states? Ideally, I would love to see it taken out of congressional salaries, but that's unlikely...

Story out of Oregon is that they got state unemployment (rightfully), but now that they were back-payed, they get to keep the money, which doesn't make any berkeleying sense.

If I'm laid off and 2 weeks later my employer brings me back and pays me for the 2 weeks, I would have to pay the state unemployment back. Why does my mouth-breathing DOL clerk not have to?!?

The_Jed
The_Jed SuperDork
10/17/13 7:00 p.m.
mtn wrote:
The_Jed wrote: In reply to nocones: We wouldn't want the perpetrators of this travesty to suffer, would we?
In all fairness, most of the government employees are not the perpetrators. And actually, the perpetrators were being paid the entire time.

Well that makes it even more infuriating. Cantcha just leave me to my ignorance?!

No to find a patch of sand deep enough for my head...

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe Dork
10/17/13 11:07 p.m.
ultraclyde wrote: How does this compare to all the federal employees who took state-funded unemployment during the shutdown but will now be paid all the wages they missed? Should they have to pay back the unemployment $ to the state?

Tax law says yes they do.

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
10/18/13 7:32 a.m.

Heard an interesting number on the radio this morning, in Oklahoma City, 70% of the women who seek shelter/food services are trying to escape from an abusive spouse/partner.

mtn
mtn UltimaDork
10/18/13 7:36 a.m.
z31maniac wrote: Heard an interesting number on the radio this morning, in Oklahoma City, 70% of the women who seek shelter/food services are trying to escape from an abusive spouse/partner.

And I would bet that most of those have kids.

novaderrik
novaderrik PowerDork
10/18/13 12:38 p.m.
mtn wrote:
z31maniac wrote: Heard an interesting number on the radio this morning, in Oklahoma City, 70% of the women who seek shelter/food services are trying to escape from an abusive spouse/partner.
And I would bet that most of those have kids.

and what percentage of those women find another abusive partner to share their food benefits with?

but i guess that's getting beyond the scope of this conversation...

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
10/18/13 12:50 p.m.
novaderrik wrote:
mtn wrote:
z31maniac wrote: Heard an interesting number on the radio this morning, in Oklahoma City, 70% of the women who seek shelter/food services are trying to escape from an abusive spouse/partner.
And I would bet that most of those have kids.
and what percentage of those women find another abusive partner to share their food benefits with? but i guess that's getting beyond the scope of this conversation...

No, it's just a poor attempt to make the situation fit your predetermined narrative.

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