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rebelgtp
rebelgtp SuperDork
5/10/12 9:32 p.m.

Well I had an interesting phone call tonight. Seems there maybe a job for me down in South Carolina that would actually pay well, have benefits and all that kind of stuff. Basically everything that I can't find around here. Nothing is for sure yet they are just now getting into the planning stages for the company and a guy I know was told to put together a team and I was recommended.

So besides being a whole lot closer to the Challenge what else should I know about the area down there? What is good and what is bad? What are property costs like down there? How about living expenses?

The whole idea of moving to the complete opposite side of the country is a bit on the spooky side but it could also prove to be a great adventure. Tiff is very spooked about the idea because it would mean leaving family behind and she has never been that far away from Oregon in her entire life. Heck I have only ever been to the east coast one time and that was a trip to DC in middle school.

carguy123
carguy123 PowerDork
5/10/12 9:37 p.m.

Well for starters it's South of North Carolina.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp SuperDork
5/10/12 9:51 p.m.

Well damn I never woulda figured that one

LopRacer
LopRacer Reader
5/10/12 9:58 p.m.

Might help to know where in SC you are considering. There is a world of difference from one side of the state to the other.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp SuperDork
5/10/12 10:01 p.m.

Well I don't know that part yet. I am assuming more inland because the company would be a new lumber mill. Basically at this point you guys know as much as I do.

rotard
rotard Dork
5/10/12 10:33 p.m.

The upstate area is one of the prettier parts of the country, and it's a pretty nice place overall. The coast is also generally pretty nice. I'm not a fan of the middle of the state. Cost of living is generally pretty low. No matter where you live in SC, you're within 4 hours of the beach.

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
5/10/12 10:46 p.m.

We live in Greenville - love it - love everything about it almost. We came from central new york. No natural lakes, most of the 'lakes' around here are muddy ponds. Great diverse place to live otherwise. Ask anything.

nicksta43
nicksta43 HalfDork
5/10/12 10:47 p.m.

My .02

Humidity

Fire ants

Humidity

ProDarwin
ProDarwin SuperDork
5/10/12 11:03 p.m.
tuna55 wrote: We live in Greenville - love it - love everything about it almost. We came from central new york. No natural lakes, most of the 'lakes' around here are muddy ponds. Great diverse place to live otherwise. Ask anything.

I am looking at several jobs in this area. I wouldn't mind getting away from DC. I have read really good things about Greenville.

How is the Autox "scene"? Other motorsports?

ncjay
ncjay Reader
5/11/12 12:50 a.m.

Good things about S.C. - cheap fuel, low cost of living, never too far from a race track or drag strip of some kind, Savannah is a short trip away, Myrtle Beach, never snows, and North Carolina is right next door.

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
5/11/12 7:04 a.m.
ProDarwin wrote:
tuna55 wrote: We live in Greenville - love it - love everything about it almost. We came from central new york. No natural lakes, most of the 'lakes' around here are muddy ponds. Great diverse place to live otherwise. Ask anything.
I am looking at several jobs in this area. I wouldn't mind getting away from DC. I have read really good things about Greenville. How is the Autox "scene"? Other motorsports?

I have not found many local autoxs, although I have not looked too hard - the closest I've heard about is Clemson, which is about an hour away. Greer Dragway is in my backyard, less than three miles away. Atlanta is 2 hours away, Charlotte is two hours away, CMP is three hours away. Not super local, but not that far, either. There are some dirt tracks around, though I've never visited.

Nice place to live.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/11/12 7:27 a.m.
carguy123 wrote: Well for starters it's South of North Carolina.

It's also above Georgia

Seriously.. aside from that.. I have only traveled I95 through SC.. and aside from South of the Border.. that road through NC and SC is about as boring a road can get

spitfirebill
spitfirebill SuperDork
5/11/12 7:28 a.m.

Don I don't live too far from Tuna and like the upstate too. I grew up in the lower part of the state and would not go back to the town I grew up in. I must say everytime I do a job down south, I miss the sandy roads, Spanish moss, live oak trees and black water rivers.

When you say lumber mill, I think of the lower coastal plain. About 100 years ago there were large communities in the lower part of the state formed around lumber mill.s They would run rail lines into the swamps and bring out all the timber. When all was gone, they closed shop and and left town, pretty much taking the town as they went.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill SuperDork
5/11/12 7:29 a.m.
mad_machine wrote:
carguy123 wrote: Well for starters it's South of North Carolina.
It's also above Georgia Seriously.. aside from that.. I have only traveled I95 through SC.. and aside from South of the Border.. that road through NC and SC is about as boring a road can get

I-20 is no prize. Especially Atl to B'ham.

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero Dork
5/11/12 8:05 a.m.

Ditto everything from Tuna . . .

I live in Columbia (middle of the state) and grew up on the coast (Charleston, Georgetown, Myrtle Beach).

We have awesome weather (short Winters . . . yes it does snow, but when it does, the city/town shuts down) and pretty low cost of living.

The motorsport scene is . . . ok, but since I live in the middle, I have plenty options. SCR-SCCA, Triangle-Z, Tarheel Sportscar Club, NASA-SE, BMWCCA (Sandlapper (SC) and Peachtree (GA)) all have events going on at one time or another. CMP is super close, VIR, Atlanta Motorsports Park, Roebling Road, NCCAR and Road Atl within driving (no more than 4.5hrs away)

If you like drag racing and roundy-round stuff, there is PLENTY!!

Also, if you like to eat, there are dives a plenty that serves food on the scale of fantastic to A-MAZING!!

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
5/11/12 8:46 a.m.

I'm a SC native, lived in Columbia and Charleston, currently back in Columbia. First thing: everything you have ever heard about the 'good ol' boy' political system is true, in fact it's probably worse than you'd think. As long as you aren't actively in politics, that won't really affect you. Just don't think that getting anything changed is easy because it's not. BTDT.

The coast is cool, I echo spitfirebill on that one. The weather is (for the most part) fantastic. Winter there is like spring everywhere else, it might get in the 20's at night a few times but that's about it. In my 20 years there, it snowed 3 times and was gone in 48 hours or less. July and August are almost unbearable (heat, humidity) but the rest of the year is really nice. The drawbacks of the coast: sand gnats (called 'flying teeth' locally), no hills (10 feet is a big elevation change), too damn many tourists, hurricane season and real estate can get stupid expensive.

The Columbia area Midlands are boring. I'm here temporarily until I can find property in the Upstate (it's a long story). The upside: the scenery is really nice, autumn is BEAUTIFUL. Houses are cheap. Lake Murray is real close if you like watersports, other than that there's really not much else to do except drink. The weather is nice, it can get stinkin' hot in July/August like Charleston and around February it can get crappy wet/cold for a few weeks but otherwise pretty nice. Once in a while, there are 'ice storms' (sleet that freezes) and then it gets pretty nasty. The longest one I remember lasted a week. It will generally snow once a year and like Charleston it's usually gone in 48 hours. No hurricanes. The downside: as I said, it's boring. The further out of Columbia you go, the more boring it gets.

The Upstate is where I want to wind up, west of Greenville, maybe over toward Clemson. Real seasons, no hurricanes, it snows more than Columbia but it's still not bad. I like snow every so often but unlike Northern climes Upstate snow doesn't hang around for months and get slushy etc. I love mountain scenery. The mountain towns etc can be as boring as Columbia but there's a lot more nature stuff (hiking, etc) to do. Housing prices are reasonable.

Motorsports: Charleston is a wasteland. The one good local AX venue is gone. Savannah is the nearest track going south, then CMP going northeast. There's a good AX venue in Florence but Florence has to be the most boring place on the planet. Darlington has the big NASCAR track, I have never heard of any amateur motorsports there.

Ditto Columbia, the one good site went down because of University of SC politics (there's that good ol' boy system again). CMP is near Columbia, SCR-SCCA has a time trial program in place and the Sandblast Rally is held annually near Society Hill, about halfway between Columbia and Charleston, near Florence.

Greenville has the BMW plant and Michelin, both of them support amateur motorsports and there are hillclimbs put on by CCR-SCCA in that area and in North Carolina. I hear tell there's another CCR hillclimb event planned for northern Georgia, IIRC that will make a total of six for the hillclimb points series. Road Atlanta is reasonably nearby and the Atlanta area AXes are a daytrip, unlike Charleston etc.

If you are into dirt bikes or mountain bikes, there's a lot of places in the Upstate to ride as well as Georgia and North Carolina. If you are into those types of sports, let me warn you about red clay! If there's an event on red clay and it's raining, you are probably best off just curling up with a book in front of the fire. You can't even stand up on the stuff, let alone ride anything. It's hard on clothes too: I have some underwear that are permanently red stained.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy SuperDork
5/11/12 8:47 a.m.
rebelgtp wrote: The whole idea of moving to the complete opposite side of the country is a bit on the spooky side but it could also prove to be a great adventure. Tiff is very spooked about the idea because it would mean leaving family behind and she has never been that far away from Oregon in her entire life.

Sounds like you two need to get out a bit. I would suggest doing it (if the job offer is as good as you say and secure) just to try it. Sounds like you are below the age of 30, so this is when you SHOULD be doing this sort of thing.

There are plenty of ways to communicate with the family (skype video) over long distances, and flights aren't exactly expensive a couple times per year. Worse comes to worse, move back in a year if it isn't working out, clearly if your SO is that close to her family, you'll have the support required to easily get back to that side of the country and set up shop again.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp SuperDork
5/11/12 9:38 a.m.

Well so far it sounds like it could be better than where we live currently at least. Let me tell you about boring . How much does the hurricane season effect the state? I am assuming it is mostly just arround the coastal areas that are effected most. What kind of temps are the norm in the summer?

Even with diminishing motorsports it still seems better than where I currently live.

At least it also sounds like I would have some GRMers in the area. If it looks like this maybe somthing that will really happen we will more than likely fly down first to check out the area. Both of us have mostly stayed around the NW so it would be interesting for the change.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/11/12 10:18 a.m.

I'm down on the coast in the Charleston area. Motorsports has already been covered. SCR-SCCA is actively on the hunt for sites, but it's been slim pickings for the last year or so. They still have a pretty full schedule, but some of the sites aren't the best.

If you like Lemons, CMP runs three of them a year with one of the best crowds I have ever hung out with.

Hurricanes aren't a worry as far as I'm concerned. In the 45 years I've lived here we have had exactly one that was bad and that was 23 years ago. I was living about 2 miles from the ocean at the time. The biggest problem we had was a lack of ice and hot water. Granted there were a lot people that had major damage, but most of them lived 2' above sea level and got flooded. I'd rather deal with hurricanes than tornadoes and earthquakes, at least you can see them coming.

Keep in mind things around here happen at about 1/4 the speed as the rest of the world. We kind of like it that way.

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
5/11/12 10:36 a.m.
rebelgtp wrote: Well so far it sounds like it could be better than where we live currently at least. Let me tell you about boring . How much does the hurricane season effect the state? I am assuming it is mostly just arround the coastal areas that are effected most. What kind of temps are the norm in the summer?

Since I have lived here, roughly six years, we have experienced one day or so of heavier than normal rain because of hurricanes - nothing beyond that. Zero tornadoes, zero earthquakes that I could feel, and I think about 10 snowy days. As far as natural disasters, this place is great. My upstate new york family has had more hurricane action than we have.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp SuperDork
5/11/12 1:05 p.m.

How is the job situation down that way? I might be moving with a job but Tiff will need a job when we get there.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
5/11/12 2:27 p.m.

According to the news stations in Chucktown the hurricane season is ZOMG A HUMMINGBIRD FARTED OFF THE CANARY ISLANDS STICK YOUR HEAD BETWEEN YOUR LEGS AND KISS YOUR ASS GOODBYE pretty much from June 1 to the end of September. It gets tiring. I went through a few weak ones, in truth they were more tropical depressions than anything else, some were the remains of big 'uns that went through Florida. We had to evacuate during Hurricane Floyd, that was a mess, particularly since it made landfall much further up the coast.

Summer temps are in the mid to high 90's pretty much every day during July and August. Around Chucktown the humidity is high at the same time, inland not so much. Greenville and Columbia generally are not as humid, but after a summer afternoon thunderstorm... wow, it's sticky. Spring and fall are excellent anywhere in the state.

Chucktown does run at about half (sorry Toyman, not 1/4) speed compared to a lot of places. It's pretty nice that way.

The job situation depends on what Tiff is looking for and specializes in. Medical is going begging, you see ads for sign on bonuses for LPNs and RNs all the time. Charleston has a lot of fine dining, they are always looking for really good servers. Don't sneer, I knew a couple of girls who were making north of $60k slinging that high end hash. Secretaries etc are generally in high demand as well.

rotard
rotard Dork
5/11/12 2:43 p.m.

I live in Greenville. Everything mentioned above is the truth.

BenB
BenB New Reader
5/11/12 2:53 p.m.

20+ replies and nobody has mentioned Palmetto bugs, yet?

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
5/11/12 2:55 p.m.

That little thang ain't no palmetto bug.

This HERE is a palmetto bug.

That's how we keep the dinosaurs fed.

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