Election results

Dolemite.

NYG95GA wrote: Dolemite.

+1

914Driver wrote: It's nice that Obama can rally people to take an interest in politices, but the "lets get behind a brother" attitude concerns me.

+1, racially-motivated voting is bad in any situation. I really hope that the people who seem to have this attitude have good reasons for their decision.

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90% of black Americans who voted in 2000 - voted Democrat (for a white guy).

88% in 2004.

So 92% in 2008 doesn't indicate to me a huge change.

Sure, a handful of voters will choose on both sides for stupid reasons, but saying that this election was swayed by racially motivated voters isn't supported by the facts.

The Republican party has not done a good job of appealing to minorities - for whatever reason.

Per Schroeder wrote: I don't believe that. I'm happy with the results and hope that the Obama White House fulfills its potential. But hey, I drive a Saab, so what do you expect?

Wowak wrote: We all lost tonight, regardless of who won.

Regardless of who won the Presidency, Congress is right back in place. There was very little turnover so the problems this country faces are still there. All we have is a new figurehead.

So yeah, no matter who won we all lost.

Okay, the vast majority of the people in my office are black, and the buzzphrase today is "we made it." One guy from Kenya is like a kid on Christmas morning. So far the jubilation seems to revolve solely around this point - no talk of policies yet. I'm not racist in any way but this disturbs me. In fact, maybe that's why it disturbs me.

Any comments?

Obama performed exceedingly well among blacks, but the fact is he outperformed McCain in EVERY demographic group other than 65+ whites. So saying he won on race just isn't held up by the facts. He won among whites, Latinos, asians, the poor, the rich, and every other group you can name, other than very old white people, who know that an Obama administration will clearly lead to robots attacking them for their drugs.

More than anything, he was helped by the Republican party, which sold out its core values to pander to the hard right wing. If McCain was the same Goldwater-esque Republican he was in 2000, this would have been a MUCH closer race.

I still say we were really lucky this year to have such talented, capable men as Obama and McCain. Despite how deep he went into the muck toward the end of the election, McCain's a good man who just doesn't appear to have the right timing or luck.

Compare that with 2004, when our choice was Bush (who had already proven himself clearly incompetent) and Kerry (who couldn't convince anyone he'd really be any better). Sad.

I thought McCain's concession was really classy. I hope both of them mean it when they talk about reaching across the aisle and working together to solve some problems.

And I'm happy the Democrats didn't get that 60 seats.

The racial aspects of all this are disturbing, but the elephant in the room, nonetheless. It's a shame we're not allowed to talk about it...

bludroptop wrote: (contributes to thread with much reluctance) 90% of black Americans who voted in 2000 - voted Democrat (for a white guy). 88% in 2004. So 92% in 2008 doesn't indicate to me a huge change. Sure, a handful of voters will choose on both sides for stupid reasons, but saying that this election was swayed by racially motivated voters isn't supported by the facts. The Republican party has not done a good job of appealing to minorities - for whatever reason.

You can't look at percentages in this election, you MUST look at count numbers. McCain got MORE votes than GWB and lost the election in a relative landslide because of the INCREASE in voters.

Obama pulled off something that ALL of America needed, he got more first time voters out than ever before, wether for him or against him.

Congratulations should be given to both President Elect Obama and Senator McCain for both showing their grace at the end of this long battle.

http://www.lemonde.fr/

http://www.lefigaro.fr/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/index.html

http://www.thestar.com/

http://www.spiegel.de/

http://www.elpais.com/global/

world sure is happy.. Pravda(russian newspaper)

russia said:Only Satan would have been worse than the Bush regime. Therefore it could be argued that the new administration in the USA could never be worse than the one which divorced the hearts and minds of Americans from their brothers in the international community, which appalled the rest of the world with shock and awe tactics that included concentration camps, torture, mass murder and utter disrespect for international law. Yet in choosing Obama, the people of America have opted to come back into the international fold. Welcome back, friends!

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/04-11-2008/106660-changebetter-0

Tim Baxter wrote: More than anything, he was helped by the Republican party, which sold out its core values to pander to the hard right wing. If McCain was the same Goldwater-esque Republican he was in 2000, this would have been a MUCH closer race.

+1. The nxt question is...will the R's come back to being an alternative party to the D's or will they move further into being the American Taliban and stump for even more religion in politics?

And flame war in 3...2...1....

NYG95GA wrote: Dolemite.

Pooklo?

A couple of quick thoughts:

1. Damn, I wish I had 20+ employees so I could lay off every mother berkeleyer with an Obama sticker on their car.

2. No more berkeleying handouts from me. Not for your church, not for your school, not for your greasy goddamned granny with holes in her panties.

On a local level, New York's Senate just tipped the scales toward a Democratic majority. Good news is hopefully the horrific, historic and bloody us/them fighting over EVERYTHING will stop. Bad news is that the budget and every other decision will tend to favor the New York city area.

No, not moving to Canada yet.

Dan

YET!

GameboyRMH wrote:

914Driver wrote: It's nice that Obama can rally people to take an interest in politices, but the "lets get behind a brother" attitude concerns me.

+1, racially-motivated voting is bad in any situation. I really hope that the people who seem to have this attitude have good reasons for their decision.

People vote for alot of stupid reasons. I can't say that race is any dumber than most other reasons. As far as the people dancing in the streets chanting "We Won!" it made a little more sense now than after the first OJ verdict.

I was a bit uncomfortable going home last night as a group of happy Obama fans followed me to the subway letting me know that the shoe was on the other foot now that they were in charge. It would be time for us to pay and pay big. I hope this nonsense isn't going to on for long.

Someone on here quoted that there can no longer be the excuse that "The white man is opressing minorities" if Obama gets elected. Now that has come to fruition, Americans, no matter what lineage, need to get over it and try to resolve the REAL issues.

curtis73 wrote: Fox News needs to die a slow, painful death. Oh wait... they already are :)

you need to take a look at the ratings

JmfnB wrote: YET!

Too Berkelying cold! Rather move my measley federal retirement to something off shore and tropical.

Can anyone turn my flag upside and light it on fire for my new avatar. Im a bit unhappy with the results of some of the props here in cali. I wish to express myself for a period of time.

In other news, Bacon beats Fries. Was it even a question

http://data.denverpost.com/election/results/state-senate/2008/district-14/ Larimer County: State Senate District 14 Results Bob Bacon vs. Matt Fries

Results District 14 100% reporting ( 69 precincts )

Candidate or Ballot-Vote Vote percentage Vote count Bob Bacon (Dem) 62% (43,893)

Matt Fries (GOP) 37% (25,893)

Updated 4 hours, 53 minutes ago

Wally wrote: I was a bit uncomfortable going home last night as a group of happy Obama fans followed me to the subway letting me know that the shoe was on the other foot now that they were in charge. It would be time for us to pay and pay big. I hope this nonsense isn't going to on for long.

Amen, brother. The whole 'us vs them' mentality evident is kinda spooky.

Jensenman wrote: Amen, brother. The whole 'us vs them' mentality evident is kinda spooky.

Speaking from a racial perspective...

in Va it is a mixed group of people supporting and celebrating the Obama victory. Story of a spontaneous celebration in Richmond.

btw - Obama Secret Service codename:

• Barack Obama - Renegade

• Michelle Obama - Renaissance

source

Per Schroeder wrote: And flame war in 3...2...1....

We can all unite in the joy of knowing that LQ isn't Madam President, and that is a victory no matter who you are!