In reply to dropstep :
Checked last night, FB is full of new in box freezers at inflated prices. Not going to pay a profiteer a premium during a pandemic because they're the shiny happy people causing the "shortages" buying them up as they're available
In reply to Patrick (Forum Supporter) :
Maybe we should all buy up cheap old cars & hang onto them until demand skyrockets! Oh, wait...
In reply to Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) :
I already did that, but never sell the valuable ones
During the last “great ammo scare” I was working nights near a cabellas. They didn’t raise prices, just had limits, and sold out fast each morning. Whatever brand happened to come in that day, was seen online at 4 times the price![angry angry](https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/static/ckeditor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/angry_smile.png)
i admit to buying a lot, but I’m a hoarder not a profiteer. And I’m a hoarder year round!
Placemotorsports said:
Went to a local Dick Sporting goods last night and they had a couple Nikishi (sp?) ones there. They looked decent, anyone had those?
No, experience with these specifically...but according to the Wiki, Dick's Sporting goods licensed the Nikishi name in the US. Who knows where they're actually built though. Most (not all) of the sporting goods store bikes will be better than wal-mart but heavier and clunkier (and cheaper) than what your bike store will have.
Next time I go bike shopping I'm going to carry a bathroom scale with me. My mid-level 2003ish Trek 6700 (+1200 new) in size L weighs about 27 lbs. My son's size M Diamondback (looks good, but it's a sporting goods store bike) weighs north of 32 lbs. It feels like a brick.
If this is the one you're looking at, it looks closer to wal-mart spec than bike store spec. I'd say pony up for the GT if you can. This has rim brakes (not disc) and the fork looks pretty skimpy. It also has a threaded headset (aheadset style is pretty much standard on anything decent these days).
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So, we have learned:
- buying habits have changed as everyone's life took a step change
- it takes a while for the market to respond
- buy low, sell high apparently still applies :)
BTW, there's not much point in wondering where a bike is made. Most are made in China and Taiwan. The cost of Chinese made bikes spiked last year with the 25% tariff (remember that little thing?) so the cost of bikes was already up from what you may remember.
My good bike frames are made in Canada. But they're also 13 years old.
Hoondavan said:
Placemotorsports said:
Went to a local Dick Sporting goods last night and they had a couple Nikishi (sp?) ones there. They looked decent, anyone had those?
No, experience with these specifically...but according to the Wiki, Dick's Sporting goods licensed the Nikishi name in the US. Who knows where they're actually built though. Most (not all) of the sporting goods store bikes will be better than wal-mart but heavier and clunkier (and cheaper) than what your bike store will have.
Next time I go bike shopping I'm going to carry a bathroom scale with me. My mid-level 2003ish Trek 6700 (+1200 new) in size L weighs about 27 lbs. My son's size M Diamondback (looks good, but it's a sporting goods store bike) weighs north of 32 lbs. It feels like a brick.
If this is the one you're looking at, it looks closer to wal-mart spec than bike store spec. I'd say pony up for the GT if you can. This has rim brakes (not disc) and the fork looks pretty skimpy. It also has a threaded headset (aheadset style is pretty much standard on anything decent these days).
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Yep that is the exact bike down to the color. I told my son to take a spin on my old Gary Fisher Wahoo and see what he thinks first. I would assume it's about the same weight as this one
In reply to Placemotorsports :
I think your wahoo is a much better bike than this all-around. It's totally fine for doing kid stuff, but if he is lookign to ride trails, I think you can do better than that.
I bought my first mountain bike from Dick's back in ~1994. It cost $220 (diamondback outlook) and was pretty heavy (steel!) , but it was also indestructible. I also added a fork and replaced most of the parts later on.
If you're looking for an inexpensive bike I'd take a look at http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/mountain_bikes.htm. Unfortunately, most of their bikes are backordered until september (or later). II haven't ordreed from them, but their feedback is generally positive. If you can wait until the weather cools off, you may find some good deals on used bikes between thanksgiving and Christmas. I usually buy and sell at least a handful of items that time of year.
In reply to Hoondavan :
I'm thinking a quick trigger on the Marketplace is my best bet. That way I can check them out and take them for a spin
Our local Walmart has be consistently almost out of stock on bicycles for months. I've seen, ahem, a lot of "older" people, (myself included in this demographic) buying bicycles.
I've wonder if the local ER's have seen an uptick in collarbone and arm fractures. "I rode everywhere on bikes! I'll be fine." "How long ago was this? "Oh, about 30 years." Unhuh.
I wouldn't be surprised if pawn shops showed an uptick in bikes as well
Placemotorsports said:
I wouldn't be surprised if pawn shops showed an uptick in bikes as well
I was going to suggest fb marketplace. I just scored a sweet 40-year-old Puch bicycle in my local area:
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I think I have the answer...
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finally found a rear tire for my sons bike.. local bike shop couldn't find one. Took it down there for them to install. $10.. Could have done it myself, but I like these guys and want to keep them around, plus my sons derauiller needed adjustment.. so they threw that in.
I just messaged a bunch of bike shops in a 70 mile radius when they had in stock of sub $700 men's bikes. Probably be luckly if I get a response
My wife and I both have road bikes that we NEVER ride. Both are Treks, in decent condition (hers I don't think has EVER been ridden). We could use the cash right now.
How do we figure out what they're worth today?
In reply to mtn (Forum Supporter) :
You can look at bicyclebluebook.com. Although, in normal times it seems like everyone is asking at least twice what the blue book value listed is. So you could ask 4 times what it says?
Found a Kona Lanai in stock in a light blue, not sure the specs on it. How do they compare?
Try finding any plates (weights). They're all sold out and people want $2 a pound for used
Placemotorsports said:
Found a Kona Lanai in stock in a light blue, not sure the specs on it. How do they compare?
https://www.konaworld.com/lanai.cfm
$600 MSRP new, and a much better bike.
A much better bike though. One other thing I've sen on used bikes...people who spent more than the bike's value on bike shops tune-ups. Fork
mtn (Forum Supporter) said:
My wife and I both have road bikes that we NEVER ride. Both are Treks, in decent condition (hers I don't think has EVER been ridden). We could use the cash right now.
How do we figure out what they're worth today?
Their value really depends on the oringal MSRP and how old they are. Check bicyclebluebook. Most bikes they say are worth $200 tend to be listed at double that. The higher-end stuff ~$1000 seem to be priced much closer ot the estimate. Just as important, see what simliar year & quality bikes are posted for right now (and how long they've been listed). Bikes that look similar but have been posted for weeks/months are probably listed too high
Bikes have been largely out of stock around here since March. I've been trying to buy a bike since then with no luck. Walmart, Dick's, REI, and all of the LBS's are out of stock and have no ETA of when they will have more. BikesDirect.com is also sold out until next year on most of their affordable and mid-range bikes. On the second hand market, people are charging way more than they should for even crappy bikes due to "supply and demand".
I was able to score a bike last week via BikesOnline.com (no canoe). They sell Polygon bikes, which are new to the US market but big down in Australia, New Zealand, and the South Pacific. They are made in Indonesia, and so far, so good (only had it a day, but it seems pretty nice). They are made by the same company that makes most of the Marin bikes that are made overseas, if that helps. Their US base of operations is in California; took a week to get a bike up here to MA. They are sold out of a lot of stuff as well, but some stuff is available and coming back into stock soon. Might be worth checking out.
In reply to Hoondavan :
In comparison to a base Trek or Specialized which would be the better choice? Seem to all be in the same price bucket
yupididit said:
Try finding any plates (weights). They're all sold out and people want $2 a pound for used
My 15-year old wanted to start lifting weights. Fortunately, I still had some plates and my old bar laying back in a corner of the garage. Cleaned it all up and built a rack modeled after this guy on youtube. DIY, dudes!
Fun fact: Some of my plates were cast by my Dad back when he still worked (as a metallurgical engineer) for a foundry.