Anyone here need a plane with some cool ownership history?
Anyone here need a plane with some cool ownership history?
Awesome! I got to see Mastodon open for Primus on their tour a few years ago. AWESOME!
Primus sucks but, seriously, always a good show. The Farewell to Kings show was all the awesome.
Saw Primus open for the chili peppers at Cow Palace in SF a million years ago (what.. '89? I bet?), and Primus just blew them away. No contest. Prolly the greatest concert I ever saw was the last show of their tour with Anthrax and Public Enemy.....Yep, they're Primus, they suck....
We saw Primus open for Tool several years back. That evening was all the wow.
David S. Wallens said:We saw Primus open for Tool several years back. That evening was all the wow.
Last time i saw Primus was the only time i saw Primus, Lollapalooza 1993. I can't remember if Tool opened the show, or if they went on after RATM. Alice In Chains was the closer. Holy crap what a great day that was.
We've probably had a thread that was the right place to lament never having seen Primus...
Nice looking plane!
SR20's seem to be nice planes. I seem to see a fair number of them flying around. Doesn't say if it's a turbo or not.
Sidestick controls, full glass cockpit, good visibility.
aircooled said:SR20's seem to be nice planes. I seem to see a fair number of them flying around. Doesn't say if it's a turbo or not.
Sidestick controls, full glass cockpit, good visibility.
I was given a sales flight in an SR22 once. They are nice, and good travelers. I did not, however, really find it all that enjoyable to hand fly-- not really a mark against the side stick, just that the airplane seemed to be saying-- you paid good money for the autopilot, use it.
The single lever power control was also biased towards running at 2500 rpm, so you couldn't roll back the RPM for less noise without rolling back power.
In reply to Karacticus :
OK, that is a good question for you then. Where the hell is the throttle? I don't see it in the pictures. The flaps and mixture control are obvious, if by nothing else, the shape (for those who don't know, aircraft controls are standardized by shape to, in most cases, represent what they control). The fuel selector is obvious. But where is the throttle? And what is that red, seemingly easy to mistakenly click, switch next to the flap lever?
I am sure you get used to it, and it makes it very roomy, but I am not sure I am a fan of the left side stick for the pilot in command. Seems like it would be nice to switch hands sometimes. Then again, like you say, that is why you pay the bit bucks for the auto pilot.
- Kind of a side track, but a YouTube video came up in my feed about a Debonair (basically a straight tail Bonanza) that flew into the ground at a high angle of attack and high speed in clear weather. The analysis seemed to indicate (based on previous YouTube's the pilot made) that it was the result of misunderstanding and fighting with the auto pilot (probably heavy nose down trim, in a dive down, with power). I spent most of the video essentially screaming at the pilot: "FLY THE DAMN PLANE". It scares me a bit that people want to rely on autopilots so much. Heck, airline pilots tend to buy planes like Cub's so they are forces to actually fly a plane, rather then push buttons (which is 95% of modern commercial flying).
David S. Wallens said:Primus sucks but, seriously, always a good show. The Farewell to Kings show was all the awesome.
Primus sucks!
(I know the joke, it's funny to see it on social media who only know Jerry Was a Race Car Driver lose their minds when people say that.)
I love the story he tells about trying our for Metallica and Hetfield was like, "Man you're way too good for us."
Tails From the Punchbowl tour. 1996. My first show ever.
aircooled said:In reply to Karacticus :
OK, that is a good question for you then. Where the hell is the throttle? I don't see it in the pictures.
You mean the great big black and white lever right in the middle of the center area in between the seats exactly where the pilot's right hand would naturally fall? The one that is almost blocking the view of the other controls that you noticed "obviouslys". (It took me a minute to find the flaps.)
Needs big brown beaver skin seats.
z31maniac said:David S. Wallens said:Primus sucks but, seriously, always a good show. The Farewell to Kings show was all the awesome.
Primus sucks!
(I know the joke, it's funny to see it on social media who only know Jerry Was a Race Car Driver lose their minds when people say that.)
I love the story he tells about trying our for Metallica and Hetfield was like, "Man you're way too good for us."
Yeah, I’ve heard him retell that story. Seeing Primus is like watching a clinic in A++ bass playing.
I don't spend a lot of time in cockpits, but looking at this one, I wonder how well liked the location of that breaker panel is (next to the pilot's right foot) and how the standby instrument/instruments are pretty low on the instrument panel. Seems kind of non-optimal?
The Cirrus aircraft definitely seem popular, or at least the pistons are, I don't know how well the Cirrus Jet has done as far as sales or if the company has hit its production targets.
In reply to Beer Baron :
Yup, that's the power control. Mechanical mousetrap device that combines throttle and propellor control. The red knob along side is mixture.
pres589 (djronnebaum) said:I don't spend a lot of time in cockpits, but looking at this one, I wonder how well liked the location of that breaker panel is (next to the pilot's right foot) and how the standby instrument/instruments are pretty low on the instrument panel. Seems kind of non-optimal?
The Cirrus aircraft definitely seem popular, or at least the pistons are, I don't know how well the Cirrus Jet has done as far as sales or if the company has hit its production targets.
If you've just had a circuit breaker trip to keep from letting the smoke out of some wiring in a vehicle where you can't pull over to the shoulder and get out of while it burns, you really shouldn't reset it until you're on the ground. Most especially if you don't need any of the equipment on that bus to otherwise land safely.
And you should see where breakers are installed in some business jets-- some you'd nearly have to stand on your head to get to, some purposely not accessible in flight.
In the Cirrus, outside of a dark and stormy night where you'd want lights and more than backup instruments (the latter generally having dedicated backup power), the only thing you'd need electricity for is flaps-- the landing gear is always down!
David S. Wallens said:z31maniac said:David S. Wallens said:Primus sucks but, seriously, always a good show. The Farewell to Kings show was all the awesome.
Primus sucks!
(I know the joke, it's funny to see it on social media who only know Jerry Was a Race Car Driver lose their minds when people say that.)
I love the story he tells about trying our for Metallica and Hetfield was like, "Man you're way too good for us."
Yeah, I’ve heard him retell that story. Seeing Primus is like watching a clinic in A++ bass playing.
The only other guy I've seen live in the same category is John Entwistle. I stood in awww for 90+ minutes right in front of him at the Cain's in Tulsa. A few years ago my dad found a copy of the original show poster and had it framed.
It sits right above the set list we snagged off the stage and had him sign in 1996. On the other wall of the home bar where I have my signed drum head from Paul Mazurkiewicz the drummer from Cannibal Corpse.
Beer Baron said:You mean the great big black and white lever right in the middle of the center area in between the seats exactly where the pilot's right hand would naturally fall? The one that is almost blocking the view of the other controls that you noticed "obviouslys". (It took me a minute to find the flaps.)
You mean the giant black and white lever not shaped like the standard throttle shape (a ball, thus the phrase "balls to the wall")?, but instead looks to be shaped very much like a flap? (I obviously assumed that was the flaps, by the shape). Hard to see in the pic, but the flap lever is flap shaped.
Regarding the breaker. One of the first things on the trouble checklist of most electrical issues will be to "check breaker", so having them close is nice. With a glass cockpit, even more so I suspect.
Good looking plane! I'm a Claypool fan also. Hasn't he been working with Julian Lennon lately? Spent some time hanging out with Todd Huth, the other founding member of Primus. Super nice guy, although I always felt a little bad that he quit the band before they went big. Claypool's got a nice spread and winery in Western Sonoma County - near Tom Waits, interestingly. They seem like they'd be a very entertaining pairing..
In reply to z31maniac :
Entwistle was a beast. Saw the Who live in Meadowlands BITD. And when talking bassists, of course gotta mention Geddy.
Talking Jazz now, but Victor Wooten's my favorite electric bass player out there.
Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:Talking Jazz now, but Victor Wooten's my favorite electric bass player out there.
Ha, I came across this video featuring him just yesterday.
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