gamby wrote:
I see your point, but the problem now is that most mainstream music IS disposable pop.
I'm a relatively big fan of electronic music. 2006-ish is when I really got into it. By 2013, its all complete garbage now and I am happy the genre appears to be dying. It might make it good again. Note that very few songs from after 2000 in any genre of music have been "defining" music. None of this E36 M3 will be played 20 years from now with fond memories. Its all 15 minutes of fame crap.
One thing a lot of people don't realize is how quickly society changes nowadays though. Cultural shifts are drastic and amazingly quick.
Random: RE: This berkeleying "rap/country" garbage, it'd be awesome if they took it to the next level and started talking E36 M3 about each other in their songs, and subsequently, gunning each other down. 
gamby
UltimaDork
3/9/15 12:13 p.m.
HiTempguy wrote:
gamby wrote:
I see your point, but the problem now is that most mainstream music IS disposable pop.
I'm a relatively big fan of electronic music. 2006-ish is when I really got into it. By 2013, its all complete garbage now and I am happy the genre appears to be dying. It might make it good again. Note that very few songs from after 2000 in any genre of music have been "defining" music. None of this E36 M3 will be played 20 years from now with fond memories. Its all 15 minutes of fame crap.
One thing a lot of people don't realize is how quickly society changes nowadays though. Cultural shifts are drastic and amazingly quick.
Such a good point. I've said that a lot of this music will be remembered as "remember we heard this when we were at ______" instead of "wow, that was such a good song".
Again, there is plenty of amazing music being made. It's just not making a broad cultural impact. Too many kids would rather look at their phones than get into well-made music. 
Bon Iver-Bon Iver, Fleet Foxes--Helplessness Blues and Daft Punk--Random Access Memories (well, that one was big) were all stunning pieces of composition from the past 5 years.
petegossett wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
Where do you go looking for awesome new talent because I could use some fresh background noise while I'm typing up reams of useless reports that no one will ever read.
YouTube primarily, or just like pre-internet - through friends and other musicians...including here on GRM. I've got a playlist about 20-hours long of mostly instrumental jazz/prog/jazz-prog-metal-ish stuff that gets me through most workdays.
For fans of progressive music, it's never been easier to find than it is now. There's still lot's of good music being made, and mainstream radio is NOT the place to find it.
In reply to HiTempguy:
The problem with electronica, edm and all that ilk is that in an effort to define themselves, artist and/or some eletist fans successfully subdivided the genres within that music, and formed such drastic cliques within the sub-genres, any and all distinctions have lost meaning.
It becomes hostile to new fans, especially if you can't tell the difference between ambient, chillout, and drone... or get chewed out for playing a nightcore track to a happyhardcore fan. i get the impression there's lots of trouser snake waving going on by many of those artists who are trying to carve out their identity and stake ownership, and the result is it all just gets called techno and dismissed in the end.
crankwalk wrote:
I met Zac brown in Atlanta in a recording studio about 12 years ago and he gave me a demo I still have. He wore camo pants, had long hair and played a guitar with a drum built into the side. The best song on that demo is "big fat bitch". I was a fan from then on
After watching Zac Brown on the recent Foo Fighters Sonic Highways documentary series when they stopped at the Nashville studio he owns, I have a new appreciation for that style of Country. He's essentially a shredder that grew up listening to the old school Country stuff instead of Megadeth and Anthrax, and I can appreciate that. Seems like a good guy and he is very talented.
Speaking of that Sonic Highways episode... they did a fair share of crapping all over this Bro Country trend. It was glorious.
gamby
UltimaDork
3/9/15 2:59 p.m.
Zomby Woof wrote:
petegossett wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
Where do you go looking for awesome new talent because I could use some fresh background noise while I'm typing up reams of useless reports that no one will ever read.
YouTube primarily, or just like pre-internet - through friends and other musicians...including here on GRM. I've got a playlist about 20-hours long of mostly instrumental jazz/prog/jazz-prog-metal-ish stuff that gets me through most workdays.
For fans of progressive music, it's never been easier to find than it is now. There's still lot's of good music being made, and mainstream radio is NOT the place to find it.
Think of how wild it is that Dark Side of the Moon was a colossal commercial/mainstream success at one time (40+ years ago). If it were made today, it would be strictly for the music geeks/snobs.
HiTempguy wrote:
gamby wrote:
I see your point, but the problem now is that most mainstream music IS disposable pop.
I'm a relatively big fan of electronic music. 2006-ish is when I really got into it. By 2013, its all complete garbage now and I am happy the genre appears to be dying. It might make it good again. Note that very few songs from after 2000 in any genre of music have been "defining" music. None of this E36 M3 will be played 20 years from now with fond memories. Its all 15 minutes of fame crap.
One thing a lot of people don't realize is how quickly society changes nowadays though. Cultural shifts are drastic and amazingly quick.
It's never ALL garbage. I don't even know where to begin, especially having no idea what particular "electronic" E36 M3 you're into, but shot in the dark: Have you heard Rustie? Redinho? Rustie Ft. Redinho? Lol. Just the tip ov thee iceberg, but relevant E36 M3 I'm really into right now.
Ironically, I think you miss out on a lot of good stuff if you resign to the "Nothing good was made after (whatever year)" idea. If everyone did that, no good, original music would ever be made. I firmly believe that all GREAT music actually comes from that frustration, and all mediocre/crappy music comes from some diptard listening to what's popular, particularly within a certain genre, and saying "Well hell, I can do that"
Specifically: We play with lots of bands who do the whole stoner/sludge/doom thing. Some of them are truly berkeleying awesome and have a unique take on it. MOST of them, sadly, just play varied versions of the same berkeleying riff for 15 minutes, rinse-repeat 3 times, and that's their 45 minute set. But as long as they have some schtick to go with it (9 billion amps/effects, an "image," strobe lights, whatever,) people buy into it.
I digress....
In reply to Smarta$$ McPoopyPants:
way too many small time bands mistake the volume control for talent
In reply to Smarta$$ McPoopyPants:
So from a couple of your posts it sounds like you've been out on the road a bit lately. Is this the gig with your friend's band that fell through a year or two ago?
petegossett wrote:
In reply to Smarta$$ McPoopyPants:
So from a couple of your posts it sounds like you've been out on the road a bit lately. Is this the gig with your friend's band that fell through a year or two ago?
Yup. Just the tour fell through, not the band. We've been gigging/recording quite a bit. We've got a new record coming out this month. There are no songs about pickup trucks.
New brah country hurts my soul.
They still make real country music, but you have to go to Texas to hear it.
I think that way back in the pre early days of this forum there was a similar thread about the talentless Beatles and that Pelvis guy ruining the then modern music scene.
Smarta$$ McPoopyPants wrote:
petegossett wrote:
In reply to Smarta$$ McPoopyPants:
So from a couple of your posts it sounds like you've been out on the road a bit lately. Is this the gig with your friend's band that fell through a year or two ago?
Yup. Just the tour fell through, not the band. We've been gigging/recording quite a bit. We've got a new record coming out this month. There are no songs about pickup trucks.
What about railroads, or skippin stones by the riverbank? 
Smarta$$ McPoopyPants wrote:
It's never ALL garbage.
Congratulations on taking one extreme of hyperbole and jumping on it. Are you perchance a seasoned user of the interwebs?
I do agree with you. My main concern is finding new, interesting music is hard. I used to be able to go on beatport or search the yewtubes and find stuff. As I've lamented with my nerd brethren, nerd's have always came before hipsters, which then leads into the mainstream. My identity has been stolen! 
In reply to Smarta$$ McPoopyPants:
Can you write a song about pick-up trucks? Something romantical with a river and some beer? It will help your band sell EGDA progressions.
Duke
MegaDork
3/10/15 11:46 a.m.
In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:
40 years old, written in loving jest, and still better and more authentic than anything out of Nashville in the last 2 decades:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYIrs1Dx4Ck
mtn
MegaDork
3/10/15 11:54 a.m.
Duke wrote:
In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:
40 years old, written in loving jest, and *still* better and more authentic than anything out of Nashville in the last 2 decades:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYIrs1Dx4Ck
Except that was written in New York by two guys from Chicago.
gamby
UltimaDork
3/10/15 12:34 p.m.
bearmtnmartin wrote:
I think that way back in the pre early days of this forum there was a similar thread about the talentless Beatles and that Pelvis guy ruining the then modern music scene.
Difference is, they helped build popular music by doing revolutionary stuff. The Beatles' chord progressions are brilliant to this day, too--super high quality music. The Beatles ushered in the modern age of rock music.
The current crop of pop/pop country is ushering in... nothing. It's disposable. The Beatles just passed their 50th year of relevance.
wbjones
MegaDork
3/10/15 12:45 p.m.
Smarta$$ McPoopyPants wrote:
petegossett wrote:
In reply to Smarta$$ McPoopyPants:
So from a couple of your posts it sounds like you've been out on the road a bit lately. Is this the gig with your friend's band that fell through a year or two ago?
Yup. Just the tour fell through, not the band. We've been gigging/recording quite a bit. We've got a new record coming out this month. There are no songs about pickup trucks.
how can it be country music ?
Not the perfect country & western song because he hadn't said anything at all about mama,
Or trains,
Or trucks,
Or prison,
Or getting' drunk
edit: dangit … Duke beat me to it
mtn
MegaDork
3/10/15 12:48 p.m.
wbjones wrote:
Smarta$$ McPoopyPants wrote:
petegossett wrote:
In reply to Smarta$$ McPoopyPants:
So from a couple of your posts it sounds like you've been out on the road a bit lately. Is this the gig with your friend's band that fell through a year or two ago?
Yup. Just the tour fell through, not the band. We've been gigging/recording quite a bit. We've got a new record coming out this month. There are no songs about pickup trucks.
how can it be country music ?
Not the perfect country & western song because he hadn't said anything at all about mama,
Or trains,
Or trucks,
Or prison,
Or getting' drunk
edit: dangit … Duke beat me to it
(Depending on which version)
Or Christmas, or Mama, or Dead Dogs like Ol' Shep
But on the flip side the last decade has been full of cool alt country/folk stuff. Drive By Truckers, Gillian Welch, Steeldrivers, Old Crow Medicine Show, to name a few. So that's cool.
Smarta$$ McPoopyPants wrote:
petegossett wrote:
In reply to Smarta$$ McPoopyPants:
So from a couple of your posts it sounds like you've been out on the road a bit lately. Is this the gig with your friend's band that fell through a year or two ago?
Yup. Just the tour fell through, not the band. We've been gigging/recording quite a bit. We've got a new record coming out this month. There are no songs about pickup trucks.
Sweet, please let me know when it's released!
