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Datsun240ZGuy
Datsun240ZGuy MegaDork
2/23/25 6:48 p.m.
93gsxturbo said:

Its the same reason our sales dicks all get gray 4 door cab American made trucks in a mid trim level - looks professional without looking too spendy.  Nice middle-of-the road approach. 

I'm in sales so I guess I'm living the stereotype?  LOL (my last two sales vehicles)

 

 

TravisTheHuman
TravisTheHuman MegaDork
2/23/25 6:49 p.m.
Steve_Jones said:

In reply to TravisTheHuman :

Please show me where the vehicle you drive is a protected class. I've read some dumb E36 M3 here, but this is in the top 5. 

Gad to have made the top 5!  I didn't say a protected class.  My comment is based on the EEOC considering car ownership "Financial Information"

 

EEOC Said:

https://www.eeoc.gov/pre-employment-inquiries-and-financial-information

 

"Financial information" includes current or past assets, liabilities, or credit rating, bankruptcy or garnishment, refusal or cancellation of bonding, car ownership, rental or ownership of a house, length of residence at an address, charge accounts, furniture ownership, or bank accounts.

Federal law does not prevent employers from asking about your financial information.  But, the federal EEO laws do prohibit employers from illegally discriminating when using financial information to make employment decisions.

Please tell me if I am misunderstanding this.

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones UberDork
2/23/25 7:19 p.m.

In reply to TravisTheHuman :

You're misunderstanding it, or left the next paragraphs out on purpose. 
 

First, employers must not apply a financial requirement differently to different people based on their race, color, national origin, religion, sex, disability, age, or genetic information.  

Second, an employer must not have a financial requirement if it does not help the employer to accurately identify responsible and reliable employees, and if, at the same time, the requirement significantly disadvantages people of a particular race, color, national origin, religion, or sex.

Third, an employer might have to make an exception to a financial requirement for a person who cannot meet the requirement because of a disability.  

An employer can use financial information to reject an employee. The key is this line you posted:

But, the federal EEO laws do prohibit employers from illegally discriminating when using financial information to make employment decisions.

It says IF they use financial information, the requirements must be the same for everyone.

You can say "must own vehicle newer than 2015" but if you do, you can't hire someone that doesn't, that is what opens you up to litigation. If you turn someone down based on your 2015 and newer rule, you need to reject everyone that does not meet it  

 

93gsxturbo
93gsxturbo UberDork
2/23/25 7:46 p.m.
TravisTheHuman said:
Steve_Jones said:

In reply to TravisTheHuman :

Please show me where the vehicle you drive is a protected class. I've read some dumb E36 M3 here, but this is in the top 5. 

Gad to have made the top 5!  I didn't say a protected class.  My comment is based on the EEOC considering car ownership "Financial Information"

 

EEOC Said:

https://www.eeoc.gov/pre-employment-inquiries-and-financial-information

 

"Financial information" includes current or past assets, liabilities, or credit rating, bankruptcy or garnishment, refusal or cancellation of bonding, car ownership, rental or ownership of a house, length of residence at an address, charge accounts, furniture ownership, or bank accounts.

Federal law does not prevent employers from asking about your financial information.  But, the federal EEO laws do prohibit employers from illegally discriminating when using financial information to make employment decisions.

Please tell me if I am misunderstanding this.

You are misunderstanding this, and even admit that if someone rolls in to an interview for even a moderately professional position in a hoopty you would judge them.  

JThw8
JThw8 UltimaDork
2/23/25 7:47 p.m.
NermalSnert (Forum Supporter) said:

"fell face first into a tackle box" Bwaahaha. That cracked me up.

While in general this is probably good advice I have to admit I was that guy when I was younger and I used it to my advantage.  I was an IT consultant at a time when the rest of the world viewed IT as geeks or freaks and I couldn't pull off geek very well.  But I always dressed professionally and wore glasses which kinda hid some of my facial piercings.   

I remember sitting in a meeting with a CIO of a company I was consulting for and all was going well but he just had a question on his face that he wasnt speaking.   Finally he just blurted it out...."do you ever get your glasses caught in that eyebrow piercing?"   Yes sir, all the time.   And the meeting went on...

TravisTheHuman
TravisTheHuman MegaDork
2/23/25 8:04 p.m.

In reply to Steve_Jones :

Ok I see.

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones UberDork
2/23/25 8:17 p.m.

In reply to TravisTheHuman :

Just like most regulations, it's as clear as mud. 

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
2/23/25 9:50 p.m.
GameboyRMH said:

In reply to ShawnG :

I've heard the belt/shoes/watch matching thing and this wasn't it:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/sep/02/city-of-london-dress-code-brown-shoes-finance

I got around to reading the article.

It appears that you can either accept that this is simply the culture in London or you can get upset about it. Nobody there will care if you don't like it.

The key part is right in the article: “The guys in Savile Row would turn in their graves. It’s important to dress appropriately based on the clients you work with.”

That. Right there.

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