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minimac
minimac SuperDork
1/14/14 7:37 a.m.

Not that the networks in the U.S. care, but this is a very serious problem that is only getting worse. Waste four minutes and watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySk68nh6p9w&feature=youtu.be

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
1/14/14 7:42 a.m.

I'm in the middle of the US and our snow was high in radiation. I wasn't sure if it was relative to this, some of our local dumps, or some of the old McDonnell Douglas dump sites.

Very big problem here that can effect the world.
That plant needs to be quarantined (if at all possible) and abandoned. Maybe they need their nuke card revoked.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
1/14/14 8:30 a.m.

Oh no! They say he's got to go... no, no... Godzilla

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic UltraDork
1/14/14 8:34 a.m.

Fukushima is a mess in every way possible and a great example of why pressurized uranium based nuclear power sucks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_no-threshold_model A little beta emitter contaminated water in the ocean isn't going to kill anybody. This is the "news" we are dealing with.

JoeyM
JoeyM GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
1/14/14 8:38 a.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Oh no! They say he's got to go... no, no... Godzilla

I liked their related news in the right column: Rush Limbaugh Abducted by Dung Beetles, Presumed Eaten

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
1/14/14 8:39 a.m.
JoeyM wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Oh no! They say he's got to go... no, no... Godzilla
I liked their related news in the right column: Rush Limbaugh Abducted by Dung Beetles, Presumed Eaten

It's all true.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
1/14/14 8:42 a.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Oh no! They say he's got to go... no, no... Godzilla
I liked their related news in the right column: Rush Limbaugh Abducted by Dung Beetles, Presumed Eaten
It's all true.

South Korea denied North Korea's friend request?

PHeller
PHeller UberDork
1/14/14 8:45 a.m.
N Sperlo wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Oh no! They say he's got to go... no, no... Godzilla
I liked their related news in the right column: Rush Limbaugh Abducted by Dung Beetles, Presumed Eaten
It's all true.
South Korea denied North Korea's friend request?

Finally something I can believe!

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
1/14/14 8:50 a.m.
PHeller wrote:
N Sperlo wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Oh no! They say he's got to go... no, no... Godzilla
I liked their related news in the right column: Rush Limbaugh Abducted by Dung Beetles, Presumed Eaten
It's all true.
South Korea denied North Korea's friend request?
Finally something I can believe!

They will come to rue the day.

Sky_Render
Sky_Render Dork
1/14/14 8:57 a.m.

Well, in their defense, that nuclear reactor was designed for something like a magnitude 7.5 or 8 earthquake, and that thing was a magnitude 9. But then again, Japan sits on a fault line, so that thing should've been overengineered even moreso.

And that fails to mention that it was actually the Tsunami that damaged the plant. Come on, Japan, you built a berkeleying nuclear plant on the coast of one of the most earthquake-prone areas in the world, and you didn't consider tsunamis?!

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 SuperDork
1/14/14 9:32 a.m.

I'm more appalled that the ISS was hijacked and no one told us.

http://www.avantnews.com/news/845351-somali-pirates-hijack-international-space-station

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
1/14/14 9:34 a.m.

I don't think they considered one the size that it was.....otherwise, still not much different than chernobyl or all of our nuclear weapons tests in the southwest.

MCarp22
MCarp22 HalfDork
1/14/14 9:47 a.m.
yamaha wrote: still not much different than chernobyl

At Fukushima, there was a meltdown of shut-down reactors and a release of radioactive steam, most intense in its effects while the I-131 was still radioactive. There is a continued problem with leaking fission products into the groundwater and ocean. It is a bad situation for the workers and the people that used to live nearby.

At Chernobyl, a much larger reactor was operating at full-blast under test conditions and ended up spiking to 3600% of rated power and it actually exploded. The reactor burst the containment lid high into the air (with attending, radioactive plume of debris and steam) which then fell to earth atop the core mass (with attending, radioactive plume of debris) and then the process repeated itself (with attending, radioactive plume of debris and steam). This is not to say that Fukushima isn't dangerous or a serious mess, but just that Chernobyl was off the scale by A LOT

Appleseed
Appleseed UltimaDork
1/14/14 9:53 a.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
PHeller wrote:
N Sperlo wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Oh no! They say he's got to go... no, no... Godzilla
I liked their related news in the right column: Rush Limbaugh Abducted by Dung Beetles, Presumed Eaten
It's all true.
South Korea denied North Korea's friend request?
Finally something I can believe!
They will come to rue the day.

Rue the day? Who talks like that?

JoeyM
JoeyM GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
1/14/14 9:57 a.m.
Kenny_McCormic wrote: Fukushima is a mess in every way possible and a great example of why pressurized uranium based nuclear power sucks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_no-threshold_model A little beta emitter contaminated water in the ocean isn't going to kill anybody. This is the "news" we are dealing with.

How do you feel about the Pebble Bed/liquid flouride thorium reactors (LFTR)reactors? Are they as much of a safety improvement as their advocates claim?

Semi-related Disclosure: I'm really wanting to see Pandora's Promise

The
The Reader
1/14/14 10:01 a.m.

As i began my search for gold i stopped to have my fortune told silently her fingers traced my hand, i said what will my future be, the only word she said to me was sand! i laughed at her and traveled on until one day i stood upon the border of a god forsaken land, i knew those hills had gold to fetch, just to cross that little stretch of sand, darling just wait a little longer i'll soon be by your side again i am almost at the rainbows end, my burrow died 3 days ago my waters gone my step is slow and it's still so far to where the mountains stand not another living sole just a poisoned water hole and sand, the deserts playing tricks on me is that my darling holding out her hand, my arm's reach out my fingers touch, but lord above me all i touch is sand, darling wait for me no longer my mortal strength is gone at last the spark of life is fading fast, fortune waits for other men but for me the rainbows end is sand endless burning sand........

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
1/14/14 10:45 a.m.

Timbuk3 had it right:

I study nuclear science I love my classes I got a crazy teacher, he wears dark glasses Things are going great, and they're only getting better I'm doing all right, getting good grades The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades

I've got a job waiting for my graduation Fifty thou a year -- buys a lot of beer Things are going great, and they're only getting better I'm doing all right, getting good grades The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades

Well I'm heavenly blessed and worldly wise I'm a peeping-tom techie with x-ray eyes Things are going great, and they're only getting better I'm doing all right, getting good grades The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades

I study nuclear science I love my classes I got a crazy teacher, he wears dark glasses Things are going great, and they're only getting better I'm doing all right, getting good grades The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades I gotta wear shades, I gotta wear shades

Lyrics left out of the popular version:

I'm well aware of the world out there, getting blown all to pieces, but what do I care?

Blowin' up the lab, Blowin' the professor, Torn between two evils, I always pick the lesser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic UltraDork
1/14/14 11:26 a.m.
JoeyM wrote:
Kenny_McCormic wrote: Fukushima is a mess in every way possible and a great example of why pressurized uranium based nuclear power sucks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_no-threshold_model A little beta emitter contaminated water in the ocean isn't going to kill anybody. This is the "news" we are dealing with.
How do you feel about the Pebble Bed/liquid flouride thorium reactors (LFTR)reactors? Are they as much of a safety improvement as their advocates claim?

It runs unpressurized so it cant blow up, its optimal run temp is as hot as it will get so it can't melt down, it doesn't make plutonium for weapons, its hundreds of orders of magnitude more efficient and thorium is far more abundant on earth than uranium. So yeah, they're right.

Should I become suddenly rich, the LFTR people would get a lot of it. Though more likely the Chinese will figure it out(based on OUR initial research in the 60s!) and license it for whatever they feel like charging.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
1/14/14 11:31 a.m.

In reply to Curmudgeon:

I'm not going to pass on a "lyrics fight"

Reflex in the sky
Warn you you're gonna die
Storm coming, you better hide
From the atomic tide
Flashes in the sky
Turns houses into sties
Turns people into clay
Radiation minds decay

Robot minds of robot slaves
Lead men to atomic graves
Plastic flowers melt in sun
Fading moon falls upon
Dying world of radiation
Victims of mad frustration
Burning glow of obscene fire
Like electric funeral pyre

Buildings crashing down
To Earth's cracking ground
Rivers turn to wood
Eyes melt into blood

Earth lies in death bed
Clouds cry for the dead
Terrifying rain
Ease the burning pain

Electric Funeral
Electric Funeral
Electric Funeral
Electric Funeral

Sky_Render
Sky_Render Dork
1/14/14 1:07 p.m.

WTF has happened to this thread?

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
1/14/14 1:17 p.m.

(Weird science)
Plastic tubes and pots and pans
Bits and pieces and
Magic from the hand
We're makin'

(Weird science)
Things I've never seen before
Behind bolted doors
Talent and imagination

(Weird science)
Not what teacher said to do
Makin' dreams come true
Living tissue, warm flesh

(Weird science)
Plastic tubes and pots and pans
Bits and pieces (and)
Bits and pieces (and)

(Bits of) my creation--Is it real?
It's my creation--I do not know
No hesitation--No heart of gold
Just flesh and blood--I do not know

From my heart and from my hand
Why don't people understand
My intentions . . . . Oooh, weird . . . .
Weird science!!

(Weird science)
Magic and technology
Voodoo dolls and chants
Electricity
We're makin'

(Weird science)
Fantasy and microchips
Shooting from the hip
Something different
We're makin'

(Weird science)
Pictures from a magazine
Diagrams and charts
Mending broken hearts (and makin')

(Weird science)
Something like a recipe
Bits and pieces . . . .
Bits and pieces . . . .

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
1/14/14 1:20 p.m.
Appleseed wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
PHeller wrote:
N Sperlo wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Oh no! They say he's got to go... no, no... Godzilla
I liked their related news in the right column: Rush Limbaugh Abducted by Dung Beetles, Presumed Eaten
It's all true.
South Korea denied North Korea's friend request?
Finally something I can believe!
They will come to rue the day.
Rue the day? Who talks like that?

He's gonna rue the day he came up against The Extreme, baby. Bill, I'm talkin' imminent rueage.

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 SuperDork
1/14/14 1:54 p.m.

As an extreme weather nerd. Twister is like "the fast and the furious" is to my car guy side.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
1/14/14 1:56 p.m.

Kilo Zero Hotel Ocean Foxtrot
Spotter number 1782 with St Louis County

JoeyM
JoeyM GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
1/14/14 2:21 p.m.
Sky_Render wrote: WTF has happened to this thread?

We fixed it! (i.e. song lyrics make everything better.....even discussions about thorium reactors)

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