George Lucas

Chewbacca was spelled CHUPACABRA, He was really a Mexican desert monster.

Meh. I only read the first page because I got 404'd when I tried to go to page two. Here's my response:

Just watched Episode 1. Every time I watch it I find that Jar-Jar character more and more unbearable. Also, I was surprised, when I saw it the first time, that they did not do a better job of hiding who the Emperor was.

That said: I did enjoy it. I also thought the movies all got better from 1-3. It isn't a coincidence: Jar-Jar is in the latter two movies less and less - therefore, the movies got better and better still. Although, I think 4-6 were the best of the 6 movies.

Inconsistency that I found with 1-3 compared to 4-6: Lea said she remembered her mother. She said she was sad. Fast-Forward back to Episode III and you get a different tale. She gives birth, dies for some reason, Lea and Luke get separated immediately. Why did she die? And if Anakin was dead (you might assume that if you cut the arms and legs off of a guy and leave him while he is on fire, he is probably dead), why did they separate the two kids? I thought they were separated to keep them away from Darth Vader (who they did not know existed at the end of III).

Someone please find video of Brian Posehn's rant on Star Wars; equating George Lucas to your cool favorite uncle who gives you beer & stuff...until one night after thanksgiving dinner when he tries to stick his weiner in your mouth while you're sleeping.

No matter what all ya'll say, my 10 year old son is just getting into Star Wars and he loves them all, and is looking forward to the new movie.

BBsGarage wrote: No matter what all ya'll say, my 10 year old son is just getting into Star Wars and he loves them all, and is looking forward to the new movie.

See I think for the newer generation that is seeing things for the first time with the new movies they will be more accepting of them than those of us that remember just the originals.

There are parts of the new movies that I like but there are so many parts I don't. I also keep hoping for an edited version with no Jar Jar.....

neon4891 wrote: I'm more for the space ship battle sceens that the light saber fights, so that alone killed off 1-3. IMHO, Serenity had better space sceens than 3.

Hehehe:

"They're coming right at us. They're not even slowing down. The fools..."

[Que giant crazed armada.]

I think there is a fan version where Jar Jar has all his dialog changed so that he is actually useful.

I have a fan version of Episode 4 where the CGI goofs and the plot inconsistancies are fixed. I think it was Andywan or something like that. Planets rotate, light sabers are now the correct color, "laser" blasts match the sound track, etc.

Yeah, the "remember your mother" part doesn't fit very well. But, the cut the arms and legs off part I can accept, as Obi Wan couldn't kill him, and everyone else they cut a limb from seems to live. The momma dies because she had no will to live after discovering what Anakin had become. The twins were separated to hide them from the Emperor, not Anakin. And they knew Darth Vader existed at the end of III. Obi Wan cut him up and left him alive. He was Darth Vader before the mask and suite came along. He became Darth Vader after he cut the arms off that other Jedi, saving the Emperor, Darth Sidious.

I also couldn't figger out how C3PO didn't know anything about that sand planet, having been built there. Then at the end of III, he gets his mind wiped, so that explains it. It is announced fast and you have to pay attention. R2D2 sticks with him after that, taking care of him.

My friend and I just started watching them in 1-6 order before we leave for college. Having only watched #1 so far I can see what you guys mean about Jar-Jar. Annoying voice and sad usefulness.

I wasn't around when the first ones came out (by over 20 years) so I'm not to down on the new ones. Episode 3 is my favorite, I actually cried in the theaters. Twice.

After Episode 1 came out, the comicstrip Boondocks did a parody where he was converting to become Jarbari Bari Binko, a militant Black Panther decrying how he'd sold out to the man and needed to make it up to his people.

Maybe I'm alone here, but JarJar was actually less annoying than that dumb-ass kid; both the young and teen versions. I've not seen the douchebag from the last two in a movie before or since, thank god. Maybe he's teaching at the Keanu Reeves school of acting.

He was a bit less annoying in Jumper

Dr. Hess wrote: Then at the end of III, he gets his mind wiped, so that explains it. It is announced fast and you have to pay attention. R2D2 sticks with him after that, taking care of him.

Memory wipes are the android equivalent of "It was all a dream." In other words, it's a hack narrative device that allows you to paint your way out of a corner.

Unless it's "Newhart." Then it rules.

jg

poopshovel wrote: Maybe I'm alone here, but JarJar was actually less annoying than that dumb-ass kid; both the young and teen versions. I've not seen the douchebag from the last two in a movie before or since, thank god. Maybe he's teaching at the Keanu Reeves school of acting.

They all sucked. Jar Jar sucked bad, and Anakin was a whiny little bitch. I don't like to think of Darth Vader ever being that much of a whiny bitch.

I've got a bad feeling about this...

poopshovel wrote: Maybe I'm alone here, but JarJar was actually less annoying than that dumb-ass kid...

Along those line, I was amazed in ep 1-3 (4-6 has a bit of an excuss) that the couldn't seem to find anyone who can act. I mean sure OBWan was good, but the kid stinks, the teenager was awful, queen I'maauful was horrendous. With all that money, you would think they could do a better.

...and do I need to mention Ani/Darths hair!!! What the hell was that!!!

Where did they get their styling inpirations, Caddyshack?

If you defeat me Danny Noonan, I will only get stronger..

JG Pasterjak wrote:

Dr. Hess wrote: Then at the end of III, he gets his mind wiped, so that explains it. It is announced fast and you have to pay attention. R2D2 sticks with him after that, taking care of him.

Memory wipes are the android equivalent of "It was all a dream." In other words, it's a hack narrative device that allows you to paint your way out of a corner. Unless it's "Newhart." Then it rules. jg

Agreed.

http://www.starwarz.com/deletedmagic/

This is an extended version fan movie put together from cutting room floor scene bits and dvds - explains a LOT about ep 4 follows original script and even includes 4 versions of the script during its development. All serious fans should see it.

clips available here - full movie do a torrent search.

and yes the new "movie" looks awful and I can stand jar-jar less and less as time goes on.

JG Pasterjak wrote:

Dr. Hess wrote: Then at the end of III, he gets his mind wiped, so that explains it. It is announced fast and you have to pay attention. R2D2 sticks with him after that, taking care of him.

Memory wipes are the android equivalent of "It was all a dream." In other words, it's a hack narrative device that allows you to paint your way out of a corner. Unless it's "Newhart." Then it rules. jg

Let's not forget the worst retcon job ever done: the Fetts. Even if I COULD buy that the Storm Troopers are a clone of the best bounty hunter ever (which is bullE36 M3), Jango Fett getting waxed because he doesn't have a back-up pistol squirrelled away on his ship? BullE36 M3! Boba fought Darth Vader to a stalemate, and Jango gets snuffed by a Jedi? BullE36 M3 bullE36 M3 bullE36 M3!

How do you think Boba learned how to deal with Jedi? He watched his "dad" die at the hands of a Jedi after battling Obiwan at the cloning facility.

Basically it was another way for George to try and suck up to the Star Wars geeks by giving them what they think they want. More Fett action.

As to how bad Queen Amidala is, it is the damned script and the director, not the actress. If you notice, nearly everyone in the first movies talks like the guys out of "little women" the whole point was that the Republic was essentially stuffy and uptight, etc, etc.... I think George was trying to use the difference between the English and the original settlers of the colonies as and example. The English were very much the uptight, starched people that the Star Wars Republic officials were in 1-3 and the Colonial Settlers were more like the folks in 4-6, of course Han was more of the Daniel Boon type, thrown in for flavor.

Man, you guys need to look at the movies again. Jango Fet dies at that planet where the 3 monsters are going to kill Anakin, Obi Wan and the chick. After Yoda arrives with all the clones to battle the droids, Jango Fet joins in and gets his head cut off by one of the Jedi. I forget which one. Boba Fet watches and picks up "dad's" head. There's no extra gun needed on the ship, and he doesn't die at the cloning facility. Boba Fet also doesn't fight Darth Vader. He dies on the sand planet Dantooi, or whatever, killed by Luke who pushes him down the monster's mouth. Watch the movie.

Actually if you read some of the Star Wars books, Boba doesn't die in the Sarlacc pit.

Dr. Hess wrote: Man, you guys need to look at the movies again. Jango Fet dies at that planet where the 3 monsters are going to kill Anakin, Obi Wan and the chick. After Yoda arrives with all the clones to battle the droids, Jango Fet joins in and gets his head cut off by one of the Jedi. I forget which one. Boba Fet watches and picks up "dad's" head. There's no extra gun needed on the ship, and he doesn't die at the cloning facility. Boba Fet also doesn't fight Darth Vader. He dies on the sand planet Dantooi, or whatever, killed by Luke who pushes him down the monster's mouth. Watch the movie.

My argument is with the "normal" dual blasters, Jango would have made it out alive.

Fett does fight Vader (outside of the movies), leading to one of the greatest works of art, ever:

Hell, if you take the comics as cannon, Boba (who has defeated countless Jedi) even trained himself to fight with a lightsaber!

The Mandalorians are a fascinating branch of the Star War's saga. Their armor (the true form, not the Fetts' excellent copies) could block blaster fire and lightsabers! Knights of the Old Republic (good game) even commented that the universe was 3 sided; Light Side, Dark Side, and the Mandalorians. Yeah, they're that badass.

Once again, I'm thankful there's no girls on the internet!

No girls on the internet? Why don't you post that as a note on Facebook, then?

MitchellC wrote: No girls on the internet? Why don't you post that as a note on Facebook, then?

Notes? Pfff! I'm oldschool Facebook.

Also, keep mouthing off and no more beer for you.

Remember who cooks the nine-course meals.