My daughter in law doesn't camp; roughing it is a hotel without room service. Somehow my son talked her into glamping. glamorous camping?
Six days in western New York, three in a Yurt, three at a B&B. Hiking one day, wine tours & tasting the next. If your S.O. is of a similar mindset, check this out.
City folk are hilarious. By Missouri standards, I am pretty city but that ain't right.
Every person should have to camp once, in a tent, in the middle of January, in Canada, to be considered an adult.
wholly crap, I'm doing completely the wrong thing in life. The one package was $300 for a week day single night stay with a beer and a gift certificate for a steakhouse.
All for a night in a tent with an actual bed instead of a cot.
I can coddle city folk and empty their wallets and I know a bunch of yoga instructors for the house mom escapes.
Staying on a farm in rural Michigan with barely enough 3g to stream netflix is as roughing it as i do
Roughing it, to me, is if I have to lower myself to staying in a Holiday Inn...
Just kidding. I can't judge. growing up when my parents took us 'camping' we had satellite TV, air conditioning, and a shower in a 'camper' that was nicer than my first apartment.
patgizz wrote: Staying on a farm in rural Michigan with barely enough 3g to stream netflix is as roughing it as i do
Ha! I'm the next town over in holly and I have lte all the time!
joey48442 wrote:patgizz wrote: Staying on a farm in rural Michigan with barely enough 3g to stream netflix is as roughing it as i doHa! I'm the next town over in holly and I have lte all the time!
We're up in branch right now about 20 miles inland from ludington on the edge of the manistee national forest. Sitting in library parking lot now to glom wifi so my wife can email stuff for work
I used to enjoy low to no impact camping. Staying hydrated and hauling ice were always the biggest issues. Going to a location that allowed for canoe use made life easier in that regard. Some of the best nights sleep come after a 10+ mile hike on single pass, a quick dip and rinse in a swimming hole, having a fish caught out of the water and falling asleep within 90 minutes of sunset. Just never forget sunblock or bug repellent.
BMWGeoff wrote: Every person should have to camp once, in a tent, in the middle of January, in Canada, to be considered an adult.
Tent? I had to build my own snow cave!
Not actually joking.
Anyhow, I grew up canoe camping. Anything you had with you, you had to hump through the woods on portages along with canoe. As far as I'm concerned, our Westfalia is glamping because it's 1) waterproof and 2) self-propelled.
I'm all for the fancy camping folks. It gets them out in the woods, which is better than hanging out in the city. So they do it differently, they're doing it. And yes, providing luxury services to clients with money is a good way to make a living.
All my camping trips have been drive up. This last one to Acaidia was a first for an off site shower.
I thought glamping was when I finally had a tent that had a bottom.
No Starbucks? I can't even. 
Nowadays roughing for me is a fully self contained camper. Grew up tenting, backpacking under the stars and motorhomes without TV or radio. Dad didn't allow them, camping was to get away from that. After 20 years in the army I spent a lot of time in tents in environments not suitable for living. Desert at 110*F and Northern Alaska at 60 below. Even had to make a snow cave once and sleep in it. Even lived in a parking garage with several hundred others for a few months. Joke was 1 compact car or 3 GIs per slot. Too old for that now. Rather have a room at Holiday Inn but a self-contained camper will suffice. Wife won't go below a fully self-contained camper either. She grew up in plain hooches in Korea and camping is too close to how she grew up.
They've missed the one thing that needs fixing though--the issue I have with camping is that I have to sleep beneath something that will probably leak, and if it doesn't, it's hot and or humid or wet when I wake up anyways.
And fwiw, I just did a canoe trip in Canada, 10 miles in with everything we needed for the week. Literally the only thing I don't like is sleeping in a tent. Pooping outside isn't that great, but I don't mind it. Sleeping on the ground was fine. The tent is where I have the issue.
I'm 50. I grew up roughing it dang near every weekend but I just can't handle a thermarest and a wet tent anymore. Last summer we did an eight day back country canoe trip, but we started and finished it in the WANDERLODGE. It took three days on the air conditioned queen bed for my back to recover. I'll still do it because my wife insists but it's maybe a couple trips a year instead of twenty.
For me, it depends on what I'm doing. If the whole point of the trip is camping, then I don't mind being in a tent and doing without - hiking, canoeing, bike-camping, etc. However, when I'm racing camping gets real old, real fast. Especially if the weather turns bad. After a few hours of practice and I'm hot and sweaty, I don't want to deal with camping. I just want a nice shower and a sit-down meal in a place with A/C.
"Glamping" is OK, I guess. But at that point I'd rather be in an RV. Granted, $300/night is cheaper than an RV.
BMWGeoff wrote: Every person should have to camp once, in a tent, in the middle of January, in Canada, to be considered an adult.
I think you have to to be an Eagle Scout.
Speaking of Eagle Scouts. In my current life I know a ton of Eagle Scouts, like at least 15.
Had my upbringing been different, I think I would have liked to have done that too.
If Glamping is having a Murphy bed, AC and a French press in your enclosed trailer in the paddock count me as a Glamper.
That's not western NY. Southern tier and it's not far from Watkins Glen.
Keith Tanner wrote:BMWGeoff wrote: Every person should have to camp once, in a tent, in the middle of January, in Canada, to be considered an adult.Tent? I had to build my own snow cave! Not actually joking. Anyhow, I grew up canoe camping. Anything you had with you, you had to hump through the woods on portages along with canoe. As far as I'm concerned, our Westfalia is glamping because it's 1) waterproof and 2) self-propelled. I'm all for the fancy camping folks. It gets them out in the woods, which is better than hanging out in the city. So they do it differently, they're doing it. And yes, providing luxury services to clients with money is a good way to make a living.
I was in Cubs and Scouts from age 8 to 15... when we did winter camps, we had the option of the snow fort or tent. Those that slept in the snow fort said that it was incredibly warm.
Hiking and canoe camps were also lots of fun. If you couldn't carry it, you didn't need it. It's amazing how little you really need for a weekend.
my parents never took me camping. Because they loved me! 
BMWGeoff wrote: Every person should have to camp once, in a tent, in the middle of January, in Canada, to be considered an adult.
I've done some back-country ski-camping in the Adirondacks. That's close enough for me. The camping wasn't too bad. It's the mind-numbing 14 hours of darkness that is the true test of maintaining sanity.
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