Global warming and the hemispheres

Maybe I'm not paying close enough attention.

but it seems like all the ice cap melting is the north pole.... any signs from the south?

There is the whole "size of New England" ice shelf falling off thing...

Shameless plug...

http://lima.nasa.gov/mysteries/q1/index.php

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov

global warming has been happening for the last 12,000 (give or take) years. maybe we should build a co2 terminator and send it back in time to stop global warming before it starts?

LOLZ, years back there was an event that had a 20* temperature rise over a roughly 100 year period. It created my back yard. Stupid wooly mammoths driving H1s.

be carefull john brown, the bottom of the great lakes are eustatically rebounding now that the weight of the ice has been lifted. the great lakes years are numbered.

SAVE THE GREAT LAKES! STOP GLOBAL EUSTACY!!!

PT Barnum would be proud.

Bobzilla wrote: PT Barnum would be proud.

now all i need is to find a not-really-sound link between humans doing something, lets pick shoe tying, and global eustacy and then create a market where people can trade the ability to tie their shoes (with a small commission for each trade going to...this company i just started! wow, that was lucky that i managed to just start this company where people can trade their extra shoe-tying credits right before i went out and told people they were going to ruin the world if they don't cap-and-trade shoe tying)

Meanwhile Mofos Slip Ons becomes the worlds best selling shoes... Partially owned by Strizzocorp.

My understanding is that the North Pole caps are indeed melting, but at the same time, the ice cap in Antarctica has never been thicker.

I don't know what to think, but I'm certain of one thing:

Mother Nature knows what she's doing.

I believe that Penn and Teller (could be wrong) started a campaign to ban DiHydrogen Oxide on the basis that it caused thousands of deaths of year in pools, bathtubs, rivers, lakes, and oceans.. and people bought it!

NYG95GA wrote: My understanding is that the North Pole caps are indeed melting, but at the same time, the ice cap in Antarctica has never been thicker. I don't know what to think, but I'm certain of one thing: Mother Nature knows what she's doing.

one thing that a lot of people don't think about is paleolattitudes. for example: carbonates (limestone) are produced in a very narrow range of temperature, salinity, and light conditions. the kind of conditions that a coral reef grows in. but nobody thinks about this kinda stuff when they're looking at the canadian rockies and there's limestone which has a sandstone thrusted over the top of it which has subsequently been fractured to all hell by frost heaves because it was adjacent to a glacier at one time.

its very easy to leave out obvious weaknesses in your argument "just because its easier this way"

mad_machine wrote: I believe that Penn and Teller (could be wrong) started a campaign to ban DiHydrogen Oxide on the basis that it caused thousands of deaths of year in pools, bathtubs, rivers, lakes, and oceans.. and people bought it!

they did in one of the episodes of their "bullE36 M3!" show on HBO

John Brown wrote: Meanwhile Mofos Slip Ons becomes the worlds best selling shoes... Partially owned by Strizzocorp.

...for now at least

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4tWZNxnABk

so I should go out and use as many natural resources as possible because its ok and it's debatable about any solid link between humans, their massive consumption, and altering our world?

Global warming or not, there seems to be much proof of sea level rise.

I don't see global warming as the problem...I see breathing problems in high-smog areas and millions of people being displaced from their low-land cities in developing worlds as being a problem.

ignorant wrote: so I should go out and use as many natural resources as possible because its ok and it's debatable about any solid link between humans, their massive consumption, and altering our world?

i never said that, i just said that human caused "global warming" is nonsense, as the temperature on the planet has been fluctuating since the beginning.

if your cause is less emissions and cleaner air, then say you want cleaner air, like i tell the g/f all the time, if theres something you want me to do, you don't have to try and trick me into it, just tell me what you want and why i should do it.

ignorant wrote: so I should go out and use as many natural resources as possible because its ok and it's debatable about any solid link between humans, their massive consumption, and altering our world?

Not believing the global warming hype != advocating wasteful behavior.

Conservation is a good thing, even without a bogeyman in the closet as the motivation.

I believe the world is getting warmer.. but it is a naturally occuring phenominon. Observations of Mars also show it has also gotten hotter over the past couple of decades. We just came off of a VERY busy sunspot period and are right now in sunspot drought with almost none occuring. Last time this happened, we had a mini-iceage

Signs at the fountains at our waterfront park in Louisville, KY:

Datsun1500 wrote:

Strizzo wrote: global warming has been happening for the last 12,000 (give or take) years. maybe we should build a co2 terminator and send it back in time to stop global warming before it starts?

Be careful, there are many on this board that believe in global warming. Last time this came up I said it was BS and got slammed for it.

not going to keep me from voicing my opinion. now i'm off to tie my shoes while i still can

DILYSI Dave wrote: Not believing the global warming hype != advocating wasteful behavior.

as much as I hear people say this, I do not see it play out in their actions. You yourself said a while ago that even though you were in atlanta you hated low flow shower heads and didn't want them in your house.

well, my little bit of upstate NY is far warmer than it was when I moved up here 13 years ago. Snow on mothers day then, snow all gone by the end of march now.

I love being an incurable optimist

ignorant wrote:

DILYSI Dave wrote: Not believing the global warming hype != advocating wasteful behavior.

as much as I hear people say this, I do not see it play out in their actions. You yourself said a while ago that even though you were in atlanta you hated low flow shower heads and didn't want them in your house.

Water shortages crack me up. There is plenty of water, its just a pain to get it to everyone who wants it. So what we really have is a water access problem not a shortage. Right now access is only mildly inconvenient. When it becomes really inconvenient, we will find new ways to move it to those who want it. Access problems go on too long and someone eventually finds a way to provide it cheap.

ignorant wrote:

DILYSI Dave wrote: Not believing the global warming hype != advocating wasteful behavior.

as much as I hear people say this, I do not see it play out in their actions. You yourself said a while ago that even though you were in atlanta you hated low flow shower heads and didn't want them in your house.

Water is the most renewable thing there is. So yeah - water conservation seems a bit goofy to me. I don't advocate wasting it, because that's just dumb, but taking a decent shower is a nice benefit to being a modern American. I am getting ready to remodel a bathroom though, and I'm going to get a dual-flush model toilet, because using 1.5 gallons of water to flush 2 ounces of pee is wasteful.

OTOH, people who pollute water should be tied up by their testicles.