bravenrace
bravenrace PowerDork
11/8/12 8:09 a.m.

I'm looking for a winter/DD car and focusing on large GM cars with the 3800. In some thread someone posted a link to instructions on how to repair a common coolant leak. I think it's on a tube off the back of the engine, but not sure. Anyway, after telling a co-worker that I'd find it and print it out for him, I can't find that thread or link. Can anyone enlighten me about this problem and it's fix? We're talking late 90's cars like the LeSabre, Olds 88, etc...

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltraDork
11/8/12 8:37 a.m.

If it is the coolant tubes, should be a swap in and out deal. They aren't anything fancy.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltraDork
11/8/12 8:51 a.m.

Sorry to clutter this up with old news, but I would never own one. Again.

http://www.zillamotorsports.com/DEX/

Edit: The EGR chimney also has an annoying propensity to melt the plastic intake manifold.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg UltimaDork
11/8/12 8:51 a.m.

That was JohnRW, he recently purchased one and had to do the fix, not sure where that write up was though

81cpcamaro
81cpcamaro HalfDork
11/8/12 9:28 a.m.

Aftermarket replacement manifolds have fixed the EGR problem with better shielding. I have a 3800 myself (99 Bonneville) which my parents bought new. It had the intake replaced by GM at 31K and now has 106K with no problems. In the future I may change the intake to the aftermarket one just to be sure. Other than the known intake issue and intake gaskets with Dex Cool, the 3800 is a great engine. If you hate the plastic intake, you can always swap the later Series III aluminum intake.

bravenrace
bravenrace PowerDork
11/8/12 9:44 a.m.

In reply to 81cpcamaro:

How can you tell if a car has the OEM or aftermarket intake?

81cpcamaro
81cpcamaro HalfDork
11/8/12 4:19 p.m.

Here is a thread on how to tell what intake you have: http://pontiacbonnevilleclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1061

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
11/8/12 5:16 p.m.

the only really stupid things i've noticed about 3800's is the belt tensioner is also a coolant passage, and you have to disconnect the motor mount to change the belt.

Spoolpigeon
Spoolpigeon HalfDork
11/8/12 5:29 p.m.
patgizz wrote: , and you have to disconnect the motor mount to change the belt.

Not on my old bonneville (1998 model). There was a price of the motor mount bracket that came off with one bolt and let you change the belt pretty easily.

There is a little coolant elbow that comes from the intake manifold and goes to the water pump housing. Theyre plastic and prone to leaking. Dorman has a metal replacement out for it now.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 PowerDork
11/8/12 5:48 p.m.

It was me that commented on it and yes, I did have to do it on a '97 LeSabre.
Here is a quick 3 minute video.
The procedure is as easy as the video makes it out to be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFiICANvre4
Here is a longer 11 minute video from another source.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX__c6HZuCQ

As far as something printable, it was really just these two videos that I used to complete the job. I probably watched each twice and referred to the long one once during the job.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltraDork
11/9/12 12:27 a.m.
Spoolpigeon wrote:
patgizz wrote: , and you have to disconnect the motor mount to change the belt.
Not on my old bonneville (1998 model). There was a price of the motor mount bracket that came off with one bolt and let you change the belt pretty easily. There is a little coolant elbow that comes from the intake manifold and goes to the water pump housing. Theyre plastic and prone to leaking. Dorman has a metal replacement out for it now.

Dorman also sells the oem grade plastic elbow in a 2 pack for about $5.

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