Got screwed buy a seller today.

Cone_Junky wrote: A few years ago I was selling a 91 GTI. A guy came to check it out with his buddy around noon. They poked and pradded, himmed and hawed for a while before they said they would think about it. An hour later a woman came by, liked it, left a deposit. A few minutes after that the first guy called back and wanted the car. I told him "sorry, the car is sold." He was bummed. Few more minutes later he called back and asked if I would sell it to him for a higher price and blow off the first buyer who put down a deposit. Really? What kind of jerk would ask that and what kind of jerk do you think I am to screw over the first buyer? I told him to pound sand... Worst of all, the woman was buying the car for her husband that was over in Iraq. I wouldn't screw anybody over, let alone one of our fighting heroes. An agreement is an agreement. Karma will even it all out eventually.

On the flip side of sucky peaple. I had a deal to go look at an old Boneville back in CO. Nice guy and he scheduled me after the first guy who responded. I got a phone call 15 minutes before my departure that the car had indeed been sold. I wasn't surprised. It was a good price, I just thought it was nice of him to bother to call me. Probably the same set or morals that lead hm to sell a nice car at a good price.

There are peaple who still open doors, honor their word and make this country a better place. Oddly enough they aren't all on here, but a lot of them of them are. Cone Junky, you are one of them, good old JB is another.

Mental wrote: There are peaple who still open doors, honor their word and make this country a better place. Oddly enough they aren't all on here, but a lot of them of them are. Cone Junky, you are one of them, good old JB is another.

So how does JB keep a job as a dealership service writer, then?

Glad to see JB got his mojo back. He, and his cohorts, have always done good by me. Best of luck, man!

A few years ago, I looked at an '86 RX-7 as a parts car. I made the guy an offer on the spot, and shame on me, left no deposit, but we had a handshake agreement. I was going to bring cash and a trailer that weekend. He called me two days later, and left me a voicemail saying "I know we had an agreement, but the first guy to look at the car said he'd think about it, and he just made me an offer, so I'm going to sell it to him. Of course, if you want to beat his offer, I'll still sell it to you."

In hindsight, that was the most fortunate thing ever to happen to me when (not) buying a car. The guy claimed in his ad "great body, rebuilt engine." The body was full of hail, (or more likely,basketball) dents above the beltline, and of course, the rebuilt engine had been installed by the owner before him, by a shop in Florida he didn't know the name of, and he had lost the invoice.

Here you go JB:

http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/1777975207.html

Mental wrote: There are peaple who still open doors, honor their word and make this country a better place. Oddly enough they aren't all on here, but a lot of them of them are. Cone Junky, you are one of them, good old JB is another.

Some places do not do that. I remember being in Reading PA and while coming out of a restaurant, an olderlady was approaching the door... so I waited 5 seconds and held it for her. She gave me this "what the hell do you want?" look as she went through

I went out to eat last friday, to a newly opened restaurant. I had been sent to the car to get something for my son, so on the way out a huge family was coming in. I held the door for the first.....and at least a dozen of them went in without making eye contact, or taking over the duty of holding the door. Struck me as odd, must be they thought I was the door man. I'm not going to let the door smack them in the butt, but I was tempted.

sachilles wrote: I went out to eat last friday, to a newly opened restaurant. I had been sent to the car to get something for my son, so on the way out a huge family was coming in. I held the door for the first.....and at least a dozen of them went in without making eye contact, or taking over the duty of holding the door. Struck me as odd, must be they thought I was the door man. I'm not going to let the door smack them in the butt, but I was tempted.

I was rushing through the double doors at the bank on saturday and gave the young man coming at me "the look" and extended hold saying "here ya go sport" while grabbing for the outer door... the door slipped from my hand but the guy never lifted his and he flowed right into the long side of the door. The lady walking through the outer door which I was now holding looked at the kid and blew right by him. I think he may still be standing there trying to figure out what happened.

mad_machine wrote:

Mental wrote: There are peaple who still open doors, honor their word and make this country a better place. Oddly enough they aren't all on here, but a lot of them of them are. Cone Junky, you are one of them, good old JB is another.

Some places do not do that. I remember being in Reading PA and while coming out of a restaurant, an olderlady was approaching the door... so I waited 5 seconds and held it for her. She gave me this "what the hell do you want?" look as she went through

One reason I like living in the sourh. I will hold the door for ladies and gents alike when I am entering the office building I work in. Rarell do I not get a thank you. What is sad is when older ladies are suprised enough that someone would hold the door for them to say so.

I was at DMV and called the woman maam a few times, just polite. She asks "Military or raised in the South?"

Yes.

We have a "Southern gentleman" in our building who will wait half the friggin day for women behind him to make it to the door. He always holds it open and lets them walk past. I am convinced it is because he is a creepy old man who is just trying to make a quick bun check.

914Driver wrote: I was at DMV and called the woman maam a few times, just polite. She asks "Military or raised in the South?" Yes.

I'm neither military nor "raised in the South", but having lived in Georgia for over 30yrs, I like the politeness and respect of someone using Ma'am or Sir. They are two simple words (in my vocabulary) that many ignore but a lot of people still appreciate.

On a recent road-trip up "North", I stopped at an interstate rest-area to take care business. Leaving the building, I held the door open for about 3 seconds for someone entering - he was surprised, but appreciative.

Common courtesies are highly under-rated and terribly under-used.

In my case I was surprised that nobody took over the door holding duties, as this is Vermont. We tend to hold on to our old world customs and courtesy. I suppose these folks could have been from out of state.

Saying please and thank you goes a long way. Whether it's the person behind the counter at subway that asks if you would like Mayo(yes please), or a little old lady, it's the right thing to do. I do work in the hospitality industry for a resort that usually does quite well in the courtesy/friendliness portion of the industry rankings. I find that courtesy is contagious. Many folks come from metropolitan areas, and they won't so much as make eye contact with anyone. By the time they leave, they are making eye contact, pro-actively saying hi to other people and holding the door for folks. It's nice to see.

sachilles wrote: .....as this is Vermont. We tend to hold on to our old world customs......

Haven't visited Brattleboro lately, have you! As the great philosopher Ernest P.Worrell(the late Jim Varney)said "they never grow old, they always seem new, those two little words, Please and Thank you."

Brattleboro is basically a portion of Mass.

Glad you got the money back. Now you can enjoy waiting to hear about the fried trans.

I have my own story - I tried to buy an M50 E30 awhile back. The guy started the listing at 12K or something and eventually it came down to 9, 8, 7.5, etc. He lowered it to 5K one day, I called him and looked at it that night. Others had called. I offered him the full amount and held out my hand. He said no problem, but he had to make a call.

He came back and said the other guy offered 5,100. I offered 5,200. This went back and forth, a couple times and I finally left, disgusted that he'd go through so much effort for a couple hundred bucks. Funny thing is, track driving's a pretty close community, and track-built cars have a pretty narrow audience. It surprised me that he'd be such a pain in the ass to someone he planned to share a track with in the future.

ah, car buying and selling stories...
2 years ago I bought a van real cheap off CL. when I called the lady said she had someone coming who would be there in 20 min, I said I'd be there in 10. I showed in 10 and was checking out the van when the other guy showed. We both went on a test drive together and when we got back we all talked about the van and price. there was no haggling on the price (advertised price it was) seller said she didn't want it to be a bidding war between the 2 of us. We ended up agreeing to a coin toss. I won and away i went with the most well maintained caravan in the world. ALL the paperwork since new, including receipts for the every 25k trans fluid and filter. of course less than 3 months later the wife totaled it DOH!

Flip side: a couple months back I was selling a jeep and a buyer says he'll be there at 5:30. No problem, at 5:30 I get a call from my friend who says someone is there to see the jeep. I figure it is the guy who said he would be there at 5:30. No sooner do I hang up with my friend than I see the guys # show up as an incoming call. I answer the phone and he tells me he is on his way (about 20 min out). I tell him I have some standing at the jeep right now. He asks me not to sell it before he gets there. I tell him no promises but I will call him before i sell it or if i sell it. guy #1 checks it out, likes it makes me an offer which is equal to the ASKING price that Guy #2 saw online (guy #1 saw the car local which had a higher asking price). I call guy #2 and tell him, he says I'm still interested can you wait for me. I'll be there in 5. I ask guy #1 and he says ok. in the end I sold it to guy #2 because he drove all the way over. Guy #1 bought my buddies van a week later

my rule with car sales is full cash payment or no deal. no deposits, no promises, no I'll bring the rest later. Full cash payment at time of sale or no car.

oldsaw wrote:

914Driver wrote: I was at DMV and called the woman maam a few times, just polite. She asks "Military or raised in the South?" Yes.

I'm neither military nor "raised in the South", but having lived in Georgia for over 30yrs, I like the politeness and respect of someone using Ma'am or Sir. They are two simple words (in my vocabulary) that many ignore but a lot of people still appreciate. On a recent road-trip up "North", I stopped at an interstate rest-area to take care business. Leaving the building, I held the door open for about 3 seconds for someone entering - he was surprised, but appreciative. Common courtesies are highly under-rated and terribly under-used.

I say "Ma'am" and "Sir" to pretty much everyone i don't know, and a lot of the time, to the people that i DO know. Usually the response is a look that makes me run to the mirror to check for some sudden alien growth annexing my melon.

I've been giving serious thought to not saying those words anymore.

93celicaGT2 wrote: I say "Ma'am" and "Sir" to pretty much everyone i don't know, and a lot of the time, to the people that i DO know. Usually the response is a look that makes me run to the mirror to check for some sudden alien growth annexing my melon. I've been giving serious thought to not saying those words anymore.

Why not extend the respect to everyone? If the greeting is offered to family, friends and acquaintances, they will know you're sincere.

To some strangers your efforts will be appreciated right away, but not always. At least you'll make more of an impression than the invisible putzes who they ignore.......

internetautomart wrote: ah, car buying and selling stories... 2 years ago I bought a van real cheap off CL. when I called the lady said she had someone coming who would be there in 20 min, I said I'd be there in 10. I showed in 10 and was checking out the van when the other guy showed. We both went on a test drive together and when we got back we all talked about the van and price. there was no haggling on the price (advertised price it was) seller said she didn't want it to be a bidding war between the 2 of us. We ended up agreeing to a coin toss. I won and away i went with the most well maintained caravan in the world. ALL the paperwork since new, including receipts for the every 25k trans fluid and filter. of course less than 3 months later the wife totaled it DOH!

Right on! That's how real men should decide things.

Otto_Maddox wrote: We have a "Southern gentleman" in our building who will wait half the friggin day for women behind him to make it to the door. He always holds it open and lets them walk past. I am convinced it is because he is a creepy old man who is just trying to make a quick bun check.

Nope, he is fearful the ghost of his dearly departed mother will slap him baldheaded.

I am certian in the afterlife I will have to answer to my Grandfather for every transgression of manners.

After a month back in the south, and a roadtrip from Alabama to California for Lemons 2K7 with my deep south friend, my accent and manners were in full effect (I mean like old school Dukes of Hazard episode accent).

We discovered that 2 men with an accent acting like their mothers raised 'em right could take over Altamont and the surrounding community in about 48 hours if they needed to.

oldsaw wrote:

93celicaGT2 wrote: I say "Ma'am" and "Sir" to pretty much everyone i don't know, and a lot of the time, to the people that i DO know. Usually the response is a look that makes me run to the mirror to check for some sudden alien growth annexing my melon. I've been giving serious thought to not saying those words anymore.

Why not extend the respect to everyone? If the greeting is offered to family, friends and acquaintances, they will know you're sincere. To some strangers your efforts will be appreciated right away, but not always. At least you'll make more of an impression than the invisible putzes who they ignore.......

No, i mean i DO extend that respect to essentially everyone.

But in these here parts, they done don't know what to make of it, ya hear?

It just gets awkward.

Otto_Maddox wrote: We have a "Southern gentleman" in our building who will wait half the friggin day for women behind him to make it to the door. He always holds it open and lets them walk past. I am convinced it is because he is a creepy old man who is just trying to make a quick bun check.

I can confirm, as a creepy young man, that this is merely a bonus.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the whole door thing came about so we could "make a quick bun check."

I use ma'am and sir merely because I don't do names well... even people i've known a long time I at times have a prob recalling their name... heck one day I was talking to a 10 y/o kid and calling him "sir"... only once did I get asked not to and to call him so and so...

you do get some weird looks up north... and I swear that the southern drawl gets pulled out every time I go up that way...