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81gtv6
81gtv6 GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/12/10 8:37 a.m.

Grand Prix remake

Has anyone else heard about this? I am not sure how I feel about this.

TJ
TJ SuperDork
11/12/10 8:42 a.m.

I'm guessing if it to use modern day F1 cars that they will be cg'ed. I like the original becuase they just strapped cameras on F1 cars and went at it.

If they made it with real cars might be worth checking out. If they made it with real F1 cars from the 60's I'd definitely watch it. (I like the looks and souds better than today's cars) If they make it with today's F1 cars that mostly just follow each other around the track it might not be all that fun to watch. Either way, we'll find something to complain about I guess.

cwh
cwh SuperDork
11/12/10 8:43 a.m.

I don't see the possibility, or the need, of remaking Grand Prix. Looking at the "Menu" from the production company makes me feel that they would be grossly ill-equipped to take it on. Cast? Ain't gonna happen, I hope.

TJ
TJ SuperDork
11/12/10 8:44 a.m.

[hijack]Speaking of car/racing movies, when is the Art of Racing in the Rain movie coming out?[/hijack]

JFX001
JFX001 SuperDork
11/12/10 8:45 a.m.

Some things are better left alone.

The poster formally known as 96DXCivic
The poster formally known as 96DXCivic SuperDork
11/12/10 8:48 a.m.

This will just be another car movie that is remade and ruined like Gone in 60 seconds, The Italian Job, etc.

Strizzo
Strizzo SuperDork
11/12/10 8:53 a.m.

there already was a grand prix remake - Driven

81gtv6
81gtv6 GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/12/10 10:10 a.m.

I would like to see the consept but doing something with sports cars, like ALMS or something like that.

Auto ADD
Auto ADD Dork
11/12/10 10:21 a.m.
81gtv6 wrote: I would like to see the consept but doing something with sports cars, like ALMS or something like that.

You mean like this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067334/

81gtv6
81gtv6 GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/12/10 10:33 a.m.

In reply to Auto ADD:

I have that movie and I like it but I don't think the incar stuff is up the Grand Prix level.

JoeyM
JoeyM GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/12/10 12:00 p.m.
81gtv6 wrote: In reply to Auto ADD: I have that movie and I like it but I don't think the incar stuff is up the Grand Prix level.

Anybody who thinks we need a remake should watch this a few times and ask themselves if it is even possible to capture this again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9f1mfyEZGs&feature=related

pigeon
pigeon Dork
11/12/10 2:16 p.m.

And here I was looking for plastic body cladding on something GM

Concerning the movie, please let this never come to pass. Anyone trying to remake Grand Prix "for a generation raised on Grand Theft Auto" should be inserted Tron-like into GTA as a prostitute.

triumph5
triumph5 HalfDork
11/12/10 4:15 p.m.

Often when TCM or AMC runs the film, they'll run the "how the movie was made" trailer that was often shown along with the film. There is also a documentary on the making of the film.

90% of the shots with the main chararacter in them, the cars were towed, and were actually F2 or lower Formula done up to look like F1 cars.

Also, the same cars were often mounted on a rotating bed dthat allowed the smooth pan from front to side of driver's head shots. The car that climbed the wall and wound up in the water was shot by an air cannon.

GT40s were the tow vehicles

Yes, it's one of those movies that will always stand as a classic and surpass any remake.

JoeyM
JoeyM GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/12/10 5:06 p.m.
triumph5 wrote: GT40s were the tow vehicles

That reminds me of this advertisement

porksboy
porksboy SuperDork
11/12/10 8:10 p.m.

Does anyone else look thru the corners during the in car scenes?

How about tilt their head when watching on bike race footage?

triumph5
triumph5 HalfDork
11/12/10 8:48 p.m.

Guilty.

JoeyM
JoeyM GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/12/10 9:45 p.m.
porksboy wrote: Does anyone else look thru the corners during the in car scenes?

Yes, and also when watching in-car footage during racing coverage.

Will
Will HalfDork
11/12/10 10:46 p.m.

This will be horrible.

On a semi-related note, I once had the chance to talk with a guy who worked as a vehicle provider for film & TV. You know: producer needs cars for a movie set in the 50s, this is the kind of guy they call. He told me a story about James Garner. I can't verify this, but it sounds good, so I'll repeat it.

Between 1994 and 1997, they did several Rockford Files movies for TV (not remakes; same stars, just older). Pontiac was only too glad to provide new Firebirds (early 4th-gens) painted in the same gold color as the original Rockford car. The idea was that his car from the old series was going to get destroyed, and he'd end up with essentially a brand new version. Only one problem--Garner liked that second-gen Firebird. A lot.

Word is he fancies himself a pretty competent stunt driver, meaning he can hit is marks for the camera and so on. So he goes tearing off the location shoot in this second gen, doing powerslides, donuts, and of course, Rockford turns. Garner comes back and slides to a stop inches from the producers, and has a huge grin on his face. He said that he was sorry, but there was no way he was giving up the classic for the modern Firebird. Pontiac was not pleased, but what were they going to do to James Garner?

stroker
stroker Reader
11/13/10 2:24 p.m.

Speed used to show Grand Prix every once in a while. They had an interview section afterward/before where the director Frankenheimer was saying that it would cost something like $200 million to make that movie now. I'm sure he was talking about non-CG but I would find it very hard to believe you could make the movie for a price that would be marketable. He was very complimentary of Garner's driving ability.

triumph5
triumph5 HalfDork
11/13/10 2:30 p.m.

In reply to Will: True. Garner was described as a "natural" driver who could have been a pro driver had he chosen. He, unlike his costars, DID drive the Formula car during some of the filming, so say many of the pros who were there during the shooting.

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
11/13/10 7:24 p.m.

IIRC the commentary also included Garner saying doing Grand Prix lit off his racing career (I have it on DVD, I'll have to play that part back again). He really missed the driving once the movie was done. I love the drivers' meeting with all of the real F1 drivers of the era in attendance.

I don't remember the name of it, but he did a very good documentary which followed his race team through a year of campaigning a Chevy powered Lola.

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
11/13/10 10:57 p.m.

In reply to Jensenman:

Looks like that movie was "The Racing Scene". http://www.edgar-motorsport.com/id5.html

gamby
gamby SuperDork
11/14/10 5:38 p.m.
TJ wrote: I'm guessing if it to use modern day F1 cars that they will be cg'ed. I like the original becuase they just strapped cameras on F1 cars and went at it.

My first thought. Nothing compelling about CGI cars racing--that's called a video game.

They'll dumb it down and make the racing completely over the top--i.e. Hollywood.

stroker
stroker Reader
11/17/10 1:33 p.m.

is there anyone else besides me who's wondering what it would be like to build a "replica" 1961-65 F1 car using a Hayabusa (or maybe a Swift GT) for power? I'd think that with no aero and skinny tires that thing would be an absolute blast to use for track days, to say nothing of cheap to build...

Platinum90
Platinum90 SuperDork
11/17/10 5:54 p.m.

There is no such thing as a terrible way to make Grand Prix. There is only making Grand Prix.

I think John Frankenheimer is the greatest thing ever to happen to that movie. It was brilliant.

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