The0retical wrote: Ooo ooo KSG KSG!TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS Caliber 12 gauge 3” Barrel length 18.5 Total capacity 6+6+1 Weight empty 6.9lbs Weight loaded 8.5lbs Length 26.1" Height 7" If you want it dead I'm pretty sure you can kill it with this. http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/shotguns/ksg/ http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/12/robert-farago/gun-review-kel-tec-ksg/
Kel-Tec has been coming up with some really cool, really unique stuff recently. Attaboys!
Osterkraut wrote: ... Maybe you're right your simple noise would work...but I'd never file it under a "pro" to owning a pump gun. My Browning A-5 is stupid-loud once you release the slide, should that count too? I guess we should hire a guy to break into our respective houses, and compare.
I'm not trying to make a loud noise to scare them away, and if the perp knows what a slide being released on a Browning A-5 sounds like he might change his plan.
Your last line: I cracked up laughing.
To anyone else: The pump chambering a round is well recognized. If it changes someones mind and they run a way, you've won and you don't have to clean blood out of your living room.
Here is something I think about: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-12-20/news/9912200163_1_miller-booby-trap-burglar
I know it's way more fun to come out of your bedroom blasting but I'd like to solve the situation without using force at every chance I get.
In reply to alex:
Remington 1100 in 20 gauge. Has a 40+ year track record, pretty reliable if you keep it clean, available for fairly cheap used, and tons of accessories available, including pistol grip stocks, shorter stocks, extended magazine tubes, etc.
There are tons of spare barrels available, so you could have an 18" for home defense, and a 24" or 26" one for skeet shooting.
The semi-auto action absorbs some of the perceived recoil as compared to many double barrel and pump-action shotguns.
RossD wrote: I'm not trying to make a loud noise to scare them away, and if the perp knows what a slide being released on a Browning A-5 sounds like he might change his plan.
Damn near the same noise, if anything a semi-auto racks louder and faster. SHUSH-SHINK.
I don't recommend my A-5 for home defense duty, though. Even though it's a lightweight variant, it's a monster, and improved modified choke may not be the best. My fiber-barreled Winchester M59 , though... would work pretty well, except as a club.
I looked at the Mossberg 930 Autoloader a lot but never got around to buying one. Has a pretty good rep, and lat year could be had for $400 new locally with the synthetic stock. I was considering it for combined home defense / quail &dove hunting, but the two goals are so far apart in hardware (barrell length, # rounds) that I finally decided I'd be better off getting a pump for home defense and an autoloader for hunting. Not that I've gotten either yet (damned economy) but a short barrell HD pump is cheap enough to justify buying it solely for hiding under the bed.
The Remington 1100 is a great gun, but prices tend to run a little high. The Stoeger guns are Benelli copies, and I've been told by more that one wing hunter / skeet shooter that they couldn't tell the difference shooting them back to back. One semi-pro friend says if he could only buy one shotgun for life it would be the cheapest Stoeger Autoloader in 12ga.
I also borrowed an older Browning 12ga autoloader for a quail hunt last year that was a soild piece, but I don't remember the model. It was one that was out of production for several years, and the one I was using had been beat up, used a LOT, and sprayed in rattle can camo. It still put more birds in my bag thatn most of the guys with Benelli's, and it was my first quail hunt. Truly Grassroots, but they seem to hold their value too well for me to buy one.....
slantvaliant wrote: What you don't want - but what would be cool - is an Ithaca Mag 10 Roadblocker.10 gauge magnum, two-round magazine. Designed for shooting cars and/or drivers.
With a long barrell it is one of the finest goose guns.
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