Yeah I wondered what happened that one time. The funny thing is I have NO problems with other racing games servers, it's the GT5 server. Air, you must have nice fast internet, my DSL berkeleying blows.
Yeah I wondered what happened that one time. The funny thing is I have NO problems with other racing games servers, it's the GT5 server. Air, you must have nice fast internet, my DSL berkeleying blows.
Yes, my connection is very fast (FiberOptic).
Hmmm, looks like it might be a small field tonight. That might be a good thing with this track. Should be fun anyway...
....now if I can only figure out how to get that RX8 to launch...
So, did some testing with grae.
The DB9 is great, was just shy of Graes times in the M3 after a few laps.
The Holden...
Lets just call it bad and start from there. Corners wide at times, no traction, braking goes in and out, locks up and slides, constantly hitting E36 M3. I'd take the hit and run something else, but I don't have anything better.
The thing I don't get, it was running great in the test race after the ROC, and at SS7, then it started screwing up at hsr and it's even worse at madrid.
POOP!
In reply to Grizz:
I think it's just that you need different setups for different tracks. Back off on your rear brakes and your diff. sensitivity a little. That helped my braking stability. Having said that, I saved one of Air and my practice races and watched it from inside his car. He goes so much deeper before braking and is so much smoother than me that it's amazing. I'll admit, I've practiced a lot for this race and I was at an impasse - not getting any better. So I may have screwed up because I did some last minute changes to both my cars that brought my times down a little but made the cars harder to drive. I'm going to run them like that but I may regret it.
I was changing stuff in the Holden. I messed with pretty much everything and ran through about 6 or 7 seven different setups with no real results.
The DB9 has stayed exactly the same besides aero and gearing changes and it's been fantastic no matter where I've run it.
I dunno, I think the only reason it annoys me is because the reason I picked the car was because it was so much more stable than any of my other saloon choices, and now it's not.
I've practiced, I actually like this track
Me too, just not used to running it in fast cars on good tires. The corners are so much easier at 65 than 110.
Grizz, have you tried lowering the diff "brake" setting? I found that it makes braking a little more stable, without the tendency to snap around.
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Not gonna make it... Sorry guys... Late night at work...
I've never killed anyone, I don't really plan on it either....but after tonight....yup, making a trip to my local provider. And can't people read?!? why if the damn title says PRIVATE would you STILL join?! Us with the not so great internet, this is a problem!
>:( BEERRKKEELLEEYYY!!!
RealMiniDriver wrote: Grizz, have you tried lowering the diff "brake" setting? I found that it makes braking a little more stable, without the tendency to snap around.
I think, I don't remember if you're supposed to raise it or lower it if you're having brake issues.
I do know I'm confused, the DB9 was utter crap tonight and the Commie was doing great for a while.
NickF40 wrote: I've never killed anyone, I don't really plan on it either....but after tonight....yup, making a trip to my local provider. And can't people read?!? why if the damn title says PRIVATE would you STILL join?! Us with the not so great internet, this is a problem! >:( BEERRKKEELLEEYYY!!!
Why can't we run the races on the hosts lounge?
Grizz wrote:RealMiniDriver wrote: Grizz, have you tried lowering the diff "brake" setting? I found that it makes braking a little more stable, without the tendency to snap around.I think, I don't remember if you're supposed to raise it or lower it if you're having brake issues. I do know I'm confused, the DB9 was utter crap tonight and the Commie was doing great for a while.
Grizz, I just watched the replays and I watched the Commodore for a while to see if I could tell what was happening with it. It's understeering very badly. Where are the bars set? You'll need to fix that before Autumn Ring because, as you know, it's full of tight turns too. Add rear bar and take away front, if needed. Add front neg. camber, take away rear, if needed. It may just have that tendency and may not be able to be fixed as well as you'd like it. That's why I didn't use the Lexus ISF. It inherantly understeered.
Bars are 3/2, just like the DB9, works out well for most RWD cars.
I'll probably have to bump up the camber in the front, I think it's around -1.7 or so in the front, and not much less in the back.
Well boys, I was glad to get that one over with. 48 laps plus qualifying at this place is a bit much.
What's the worst thing you can imagine happen in any race . . . ah, damage at T1 maybe? In GT I arrived at the chicanne in P3. Air caught the left side of the chicanne stopping him cold . . . needless to say, I caught Air, stopping ME cold. We both had damage, mine a bit worse than his. We made it around to the pits and came out in the last two positions. (Edit: I watched the replay again this morning from inside Air's car and I could see that the tail end of GTP's car totally blocked the tip of the barrier. Looking forward to hearing Air's actual perspective) I think it was on L 6 or so I caught the RT side of the T1 chicanne and got damage again. Another pit stop. After working it all out I realized that the only way I'd do better than 3rd. was if P1 and P2 screwed up . . . not likely. So I determined to go into tire preservation mode and finish with no more pit stops. I made it but the last 5 laps were a bitch.
Saloon: I came out of the chicanne in P2. GTP, Air, and I made quite a procession out of most of L1. I think GTP slapped the wall going into the double apex hairpin and I came onto the main straight in P1, Air P2. Air stayed within 1 sec. of me for 6 laps. By L4, I was sure he was just messing with me.
That's Air.
It was clear to both of us that my tires were going away much faster than his and on L7 I smacked the double apex hairpin's outer wall receiving damage. I pitted still in P2 telling me that everyone else had problems too. I knew it wouldn't be easy but I decided to try to go for a no stop last leg. I knew if GTP recovered that he could run me back down to take P2 if I pitted again. I made it but again it was a difficult job to run the last laps.
We did a 3 lap practice race at Autumn Ring Reverse in both Sal. and GT. I beleive that GTP is another wheel and pedal user and he's very very fast. What he showed us in Spain will surface again at Aut. Ring next week. Nick looks very good in the Mustang too. It's going to be another tough grind IMO.
Graefin10 wrote: In reply to Grizz: I think it's just that you need different setups for different tracks. Back off on your rear brakes and your diff. sensitivity a little. That helped my braking stability. Having said that, I saved one of Air and my practice races and watched it from inside his car. He goes so much deeper before braking and is so much smoother than me that it's amazing. I'll admit, I've practiced a lot for this race and I was at an impasse - not getting any better. So I may have screwed up because I did some last minute changes to both my cars that brought my times down a little but made the cars harder to drive. I'm going to run them like that but I may regret it.
I think it's because you've pretty much hit the limits of the controller. Air is MUCH easier on tires than you, because he's smoother, and it's because he's got a decent wheel setup.
That said... i'm completely floored at your difference in performance between last series and this one. WELL DONE SIR!!!
And +1 to GTP being ridiculously fast when he's getting clean laps. He was a full second and a half faster than Air, with NO AERO. 
Both of my cars are utter garbage at Autumn Ring.
I was curious last night and busted out the RX7 for practice. It's so much better than the Supra it's sickening. 
I think at this point the only things the supra has going for it is that it looks awesome, and sounds utterly insane.
In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:
Thanks Celica. I think I have made some progress and most of it has come from asking the question, "how'd they do that". By riding inside Air, Apex, and Brad's cars I've gotten the feel for what I want to duplicate with the controller. In reality though, riding inside my own car reveals a much less smooth and ragged drive. I say ragged because this morning I noticed the sound of my throttle applications just sounded that way. Get into a wheel user's car and it's usually a very smooth roll onto the throttle. On some tracks I can do it but the subtle little blips at Madrid were necessary to come close to the same pace as Air and GTP. Remember, I'm assuming that GTP uses a wheel based on the way it appears inside his car.
Another way for us all to progress is to study setups more. Understand better what to do and why.
Caution!! Think twice about changine your oil. I did it on the M3 this morning and had a really big hp advance requiring some parts changes that I really didn't want to make. This included a downgrade on exhaust. So it doesn't sound as good. I ran it at Aut. Ring before and after and it definitely lost some pace. I didn't need that.
I've already called my bookie and put my money on GTP. Now don't let me down!
Graefin10 wrote: Why can't we run the races on the hosts lounge?
We run an open lobby and post the room number in this thread so that if any GRMer's want to join they have the information. If it was Hosts Lounge everyone would have to be friends before the race in order to join.
At least that is my understanding.
BradLTL wrote:Graefin10 wrote: Why can't we run the races on the hosts lounge?We run an open lobby and post the room number in this thread so that if any GRMer's want to join they have the information. If it was Hosts Lounge everyone would have to be friends before the race in order to join. At least that is my understanding.
I see, that makes sense. For the most part, the random entrants haven't posed a huge problem. Not that I'm aware of anyway. I do realize that they COULD though. They could cause a drastic reduction in anyone's finishing position. You'd hope that they would join the forum and the series as regulars but there's been no real interest in doing that . . . has there?
Grizz, I noticed that there was a guy who entered the room right at the beginning who said something to the order of indicating he didn't know it was a private series and used Grizzzzzzz I thought as a way to get your attention. You were busy qualifying at the time an might not have noticed it. If you're like me, you've tried to train your eyes to ignore the posts if you're qualifying or during the race.
The results are in from last night:
As you can see I credited F40 for second. He was kicked when he was at least a full lap ahead of me somewhere around 1/2 way into the race, so I think it pretty reasonable to give him credit, let me know if you think otherwise.
The GT standings are getting pretty interesting, GTP is a hard charger. For Saloons, we are all tied up!:
P.S. Anyone remember what RealMini entered in the GT Category? I somehow missed that.
BradLTL wrote: ...If it was Hosts Lounge everyone would have to be friends before the race in order to join.
Yup, I am pretty sure that is the way it works. Not a huge issue, but I did find out that GTP has maxed out his fiends list (social butterfly?) so he would not be able to join.
I am a bit surprised we had two interlopers last night (slow night for races?). It seems like we gotten very few recently. The room is clearly marked private. Usually, at worst, the stick until the realize how had the cars are to drive then leave, but that one guy just stuck!
He did mess me up at least once and made qualifying rather difficult for me (answering questions kills a lap, at least). I guess I need to get more aggressive, but hopefully that won't be necessary. I certainly don't have a problem encouraging people to participate, but a total newbie to the series can really cause havok in a race.
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Air, you don't know how much I thank you for that, I really do appreciate that
yeah GTP has his friends maxed which he's still not my friend haha the reason I said about the people joining is it messes with the connection with us that have lesser internet, that's why some of us get kicked, notice sometime it's when people join. Now on the same point, if my internet was actually good, I could STAY on when people join... I mean, i'm all for new blood, but like said it says private and it's a series for our magazine, so it's specific. Most that join on the race aren't into the restrictions we have.
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