GRM - Gran Turismo 5 Racing League - Series 4

The only ones i've gotten to turn so far are the RX8 and the Jag S-Type R. (But i don't remember if the jag is premium or not)

Hmmm, I might have to try the RX8. I am guessing the torque will be less then impressive, but at least it will be fun to drive.

I am a bit surprised at the 1 series BMW. Supposedly almost 50/50 weight distribution, but it drives like a Chrysler Imperial!!

^Untrue, Imperials float along the road, ignoring any and all changes in the surface. The BMW plows and bounces all over the place.

My 135i is a drift machine. I find the M3 easier to drive and not end up sliding sideways with lots of tire smoke.

Yes, I agree, it is also a drift machine. But it drives like a Chrysler Imperial with the suspension welded solid (or, how about a 76 Rabbit with a 400lb slab of concrete bolted to the front bumper) when it isn't sliding the tail all over the place. Not really a combination I am looking for.

Ben, no it's not, I was actually thinking of using the Jaaag

I don't seem to be having that issue... then again, I don't turn....DRIFTYO!

can the Rx8 make the power required? I know it turns, but it really seems to be lacking from what I've seen... (granted I haven't built one yet...)

I got it to 538hp I think, but without break in. I am guessing it will go to at least mid 540's with break in (?)

What's the torque look like? I assume it can make weight pretty easily?

Hell, it makes weight in only one step. Torque is no where near as flat as some of the other cars. It seems to get about the same top speed in the straight as some of the other cars I tested though.

The big issue I think we will have with both of these series cars with be throttle oversteer. Both have a lot of power and not a lot of tire. This will make for a lot of mistakes coming out of corners when people start getting a bit aggressive / careless.

It's a good thing smoke doesn't really show up on other peoples screens. I don't think any of us would be able to see a damn thing this series otherwise.

Grizz wrote: It's a good thing smoke doesn't really show up on other peoples screens. I don't think any of us would be able to see a damn thing this series otherwise.

That's a fact, if there were two Volvos and two Graefins running close to each other no one could see the track for a couple of minutes.

Air, I totally agree about the throttle oversteer. If you get these suckers to turn at all they snap to oversteer as soon as you try to accel. out of the turn. I thought it was just my lack of sensitivity with the controller. I keep building GTs to see if I can find one with a better compromise. Not yet.

aircooled wrote: The big issue I think we will have with both of these series cars with be throttle oversteer. Both have a lot of power and not a lot of tire. This will make for a lot of mistakes coming out of corners when people start getting a bit aggressive / careless.

You know, I was considering switching to something lighter(Is the 88 Supra a GT?), till I read this and took my Challenger testing to see what it would do.

It's porkyness means it's perfectly planted through the corners, and no throttle oversteer, just acceleration.

I actually have to force this car to drift by locking the fronts and throwing it into the corner, and even then it doesn't want to spin around.

So I'm quite happy.

E: Ignore all of this, it's perfectly planted and stable....when I'm not online. When online, it drives just like all the other GT cars. So I might still switch.

aircooled wrote: I got it to 538hp I think, but without break in. I am guessing it will go to at least mid 540's with break in (?)

I think mine is up to 566... i might be wrong... Nick saw it last night, it moves pretty damn quick. (Didn't add the ballast yet, though.)

I'm liking the RX-8 and the Camaro for GT. Need to try them out on some of the scheduled tracks to pick one. So far I've only driven them on tracks for the current series figuring it was a fun way to learn tracks like Fuji, Suzuka, and Indy, that I didn't know very well.

What's the weight on the Camaro?

Because I'm starting to think I picked the heaviest vehicle in the Challenger.

In reply to Grizz:

IIRC it's like 1318kg or something in that range.

E36 M3.

SRT8 is the heaviest. Screw it, I'm either gonna go with the 70 Challenger, or the Maserati. (Unless anyone else picked em)

I'm fairly sure that AC's Focus is the heaviest car in Hot Hatch, and he is leading that series.

Yes, but he can drive well.

I, on the other hand, need all the help I can get from my car.

Grizz wrote: E36 M3. SRT8 is the heaviest. Screw it, I'm either gonna go with the 70 Challenger, or the Maserati. (Unless anyone else picked em)

I tried the 70 Challenger, but it won't make the min weight and still ends up rather heavy. The interesting thing though, is that when you lighten it up as much as you can, it goes to 50/50 weight distribution (!) Not sure how that works. The bad news though... still handles like a Frieghtliner.

It's 50/50 RM'd as well. I'll try it out, if I got my RM to handle well, I figure I can get this to swing it's ass properly through the corners.

I think mine sits at 1397kg, not sure though. The DB9 coupe is around 1370, the Maserati is 1337*kg and I forget some of the others. Only real bonus to these is there is no turbo lag near the 550 limit.

*HA

I put up a practice room up at:

1472-6118-3658-4758-3576

(deep forest track)

my primary build GT car is SOOO much harder to drive than the mustang... but it's about 1-2 seconds a lap faster... maybe I'll err on the side of caution and go with something I know I can drive reliably fast?

I'm wondering why PD lowballed the Rustang so much. Stage 2 engine and all bolt ons to get around 550? That doesn't seem very accurate to me.

I've been buying doubles of all the GT cars I have to see which I like the best. Mostly because the originals are fully modded and have nothing but stage 3 engine to meet 550.

I figure I've still got some time to decide.