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pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/18/11 7:55 a.m.

My car is in the shop, and hopefully I will know what is wrong with it by Thursday morning. The first person to correctly diagnose the issue wins the title of "Message Board Master Mechanic" and that might come with a trophy and a t-shirt, but probably not.

OK, so I drive a 2008 Kia Rondo with the 2.7L V6. (yes, I know I am a stud) and it has run perfectly for a long time. It ran fine on the way to work, but after sitting for 8 hours, it suddenly was not running so well.

It was sluggish, trying to stall at stop signs, chugging upon acceleration, and the check engine light started to blink, and then came on steady. Oil was good. Trans fluid was good. No obvious blockage to the air intake or filter. No obvious loose plug wires. The only thing that was different (and I hesitate to even mention this) is that my wife stopped by my office and swapped me cars, so I was not the one to start it initially. (She knows how to start a car, I am certain that she was not a factor) It would smooth out once it got over 10 or 15 mph, but would hesitate and chug as soon as you let off the gas.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
10/18/11 7:56 a.m.

Bad IAT sensor.

Hit me!

N Sperlo
N Sperlo Dork
10/18/11 8:03 a.m.

Bad IACV.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla SuperDork
10/18/11 8:06 a.m.

what codes is it popping out?

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
10/18/11 8:08 a.m.
Bobzilla wrote: what codes is it popping out?

No cheating!

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy Dork
10/18/11 8:10 a.m.

EGR valve is stuck open.

tuna55
tuna55 SuperDork
10/18/11 8:21 a.m.

I would normally go with IAT or IAC, but Ben already tried that. I'll assume crazy high miles and say fuel filter or the catalytic converter.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant Dork
10/18/11 8:22 a.m.

Sticking torque converter clutch solenoid?

BBsGarage
BBsGarage HalfDork
10/18/11 8:26 a.m.

Can you describe the noise its making?

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/18/11 8:34 a.m.

it's not a Miata, that's whats wrong with it.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo Dork
10/18/11 8:34 a.m.
tuna55 wrote: I would normally go with IAT or IAC, but Ben already tried that. I'll assume crazy high miles and say fuel filter or the catalytic converter.

Whaaaa??? SOMEONE has a little INSIDE information!

mndsm
mndsm SuperDork
10/18/11 8:40 a.m.

PCV/02 sensor?

bluej
bluej Dork
10/18/11 8:42 a.m.

Ams/afm short/disconnect/failure

tuna55
tuna55 SuperDork
10/18/11 8:44 a.m.
N Sperlo wrote:
tuna55 wrote: I would normally go with IAT or IAC, but Ben already tried that. I'll assume crazy high miles and say fuel filter or the catalytic converter.
Whaaaa??? SOMEONE has a little INSIDE information!

No no, no inside info, you and Ben both suggested that above my post.

alfadriver
alfadriver SuperDork
10/18/11 8:45 a.m.

Coil is failing.

But I'll go out on a limb that the catalyst is now showing a code, too- going from a blinking light (a sign of misfire) to a solid one.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla SuperDork
10/18/11 8:57 a.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: EGR valve is stuck open.

No EGR valves on the Alpha, Beta, Delta engines.

How long since the t-belt? Stretched and jumped time? Wires? Intake mani-leak (plenum to base gasket is common)? Melted cat? Crank sensor?

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
10/18/11 9:14 a.m.

First thing I learned in pliers school was the KISS principle. I'm going to say bad gas or partially plugged fuel or air filter.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo Dork
10/18/11 9:19 a.m.

In reply to tuna55:

Oh. LOL. I don't know that "Ben" was Ben.

Ranger50
Ranger50 Dork
10/18/11 9:36 a.m.

Flashing MIL means catalyst harming event occuring..... So it could be as simple as a multiple cylinder misfire or engine timing changed. I just want to ask, when the rough running happens, is it soft or hard? That will tell me the answer.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/18/11 9:37 a.m.

50,000 miles with regular maintenance and oil changes. No timing belt done yet. Driven as if someone is chasing me most of the time.

nickel_dime
nickel_dime Dork
10/18/11 10:18 a.m.

The muffler bearing is shot.

iceracer
iceracer SuperDork
10/18/11 10:31 a.m.

02 sensor, vacuum leaks, plug wires. Oh so many possibilities. Add coolant temperure sensor .

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
10/18/11 10:36 a.m.

I'd go with fuel delivery, or lack of.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/18/11 10:37 a.m.

Condensation in the gas.

oldtin
oldtin Dork
10/18/11 10:53 a.m.

I'll go with sensor issue - afm, maybe tps

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